What pads to use with Porter Cable to remove oxidation on a 2004 Trophy Pro

hey mike,
i found some marine 31 products that i can get in canada.
Marine 31 heavy cut oxidation cleaner,
marine 31 wax
marine 31 all in one gel coat polish and wax.

would any of these better for my purpose.
ZEPHIR GLOSS course compound vs Marine 31
thanks
 
hey mike,
i found some marine 31 products that i can get in canada.

Marine 31 heavy cut oxidation cleaner, <-- Not as good as Marine 31 Captain's Compound or Zephir Gloss Compound

marine 31 wax <-- This would be good to apply AFTER compounding the interior or exterior.

marine 31 all in one gel coat polish and wax. <-- This is a LIGHT cleaner/wax, best for LIGHT oxidation. You should use a heavy cut cleaner/wax or a true quality compound

would any of these better for my purpose.
ZEPHIR GLOSS course compound vs Marine 31
thanks


I'm typing on a laptop and I suck on a laptop keyboard. I'll be behind my work computer in a few minutes and can share more info.


See the ergo arm holders and full size ergo keyboard? I can speed type with these...

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looks like a pretty intense set up you got there mike.
okay thanks i will stick with the Zephir Gloss Compound for now and try to track down some of the captains compound.
i will wait and see what you recommend before i place a order. thanks
 
hey mike,
i found some marine 31 products that i can get in canada.

Marine 31 heavy cut oxidation cleaner,

The Marine 31 Heavy Cut Oxidation Cleaner is technically a compound. The name "cleaner" was used on the label because it worked better for Google searching. It's just as good as most marine compounds on the market but no where near as good as the Marine 31 Captain's Compound, which you see me use for ALL our boat detailing classes here at Autogeek.


marine 31 wax

This is a hybrid - it is a blend of synthetic protection ingredients and carnauba wax. It works great for its category.


marine 31 all in one gel coat polish and wax.

There are two one-step cleaner/waxes in the Marine 31 line and both work well. The above is the LIGHT cleaning or LIGHT oxidation removing product. If it were me? I would want lots of "cleaning power" when doing this type of work on the top cap. The heavy cut cleaner/wax in the Marine 31 line is this one,

Marine 31 Gel Coat Heavy-Cut Cleaner Wax, boat cleaner wax, gel coat cleaner wax


They use very good abrasive technology. They tend to be on the "thin" side as far as the formula goes, be sure to always shake ANY liquid up really good before use. If you use a one-step for anything, it doesn't hurt to TOP it with a non-cleaning product, that would be this in the Marine 31 line, or something like it in any other line.

Marine 31 Gel Coat Carnauba Wax + Sealant, boat wax, marine sealant wax, fiberglass boat wax


Here's my article on topping, the context is for cars but same principals apply to boat.





would any of these better for my purpose.

ZEPHIR GLOSS course compound vs Marine 31
thanks

In this thread I previously shared, Dan from New Zealand - also brand new to boat detailing shares his results using the RUPES Zephir Gloss Compound and RUPES blue foam pads.


Help! My first detail project, and its a 26ft boat!


Even shares before and after pictures of dull chalky gel-coat and clear, shiny gel-coat.



looks like a pretty intense set up you got there mike.


I generate a LOT of new content for the detailing world every week. Most of it original. And without those arm holder uppers - I would have Carpel Tunnel by now.


okay thanks i will stick with the Zephir Gloss Compound for now and try to track down some of the captains compound.

RUPES has great abrasive technology.


i will wait and see what you recommend before i place a order. thanks


The rotary with a wool pad is a good way to go for all the thin strips of smooth gel-coat you have in-between the non-skid. You'll need to a wool pad that has the PLASTIC CUPPED LINER around the outside edge so you can SHOVE the edge of the pad onto the thin panels.

I don't have time today to show you how to do this. But that's how it's done when buffing THIN strips or tight areas on top caps. You cannot lay a wool pad flat on a lot of areas because they you would be buffing on non-skid and loading it up with compound.

I have to get out to the garage and buff out the 1937 Ford Woody I finished sanding yesterday - owner is picking it up today.

I'll take a picture of what the cupped plastic liner looks line on a wool pad. This is a good style because it prevents you from pushing the edge of the backing plate into surfaces.

I know you can't travel to the U.S. and take my boat class but for everyone reading this into the future - I cover ALL this STUFF in my boat classes. 50% of the people that take my boat classes are NOT professional detailers - they are BOAT OWNERS that simply want to flatten out the learning curve and learn how to buff their boat out right the FIRST time.



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Where I’m pointing is curved plastic edging that prevents the backing plate from buffing into or digging into the surface your buffing when you go up on edge.

Some pads have it - some pads don’t. You want this in you pad.

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Then when buffing thin panels you push the edge into the panel. Like this

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thanks mike,
post up a pic of the woody when u are done if u dont mind
 
looking forward to seeing the results.
quick question. whats a good size wool pad and brand to use on my boat with the DWP849X?
 
looking forward to seeing the results.
quick question. whats a good size wool pad and brand to use on my boat with the DWP849X?


Smaller pads are easier to learn to use and control. Being that's a full size rotary, I'd look for something in the 7" to 8" size.



Here's the Woody, and she's already skipping on down the road. Full write-up next week.


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I like to walk the talk.



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that looks amazing. i never knew what was possible with detailing until i joined this forum. crazy what someone can accomplish when they know what they are doing. been showing a few guys at work what you can do and they are mind blown. some of them are interested now as well ha.

would something like the RUPES Twisted Natural Wool Pads - 5 Inch work ? dont see any bigger sizes for the rupes on the site i am ordering from.
thanks
 
would something like the RUPES Twisted Natural Wool Pads - 5 Inch work ? dont see any bigger sizes for the rupes on the site i am ordering from.
thanks


Those will work. They are nice pads too. Make sure you get the right size backing plate for the pad.


I used the 5" and the 6" RUPES pads in this years boat detailing class I though so much of them.


Pictures: 2020 Boat Detailing Class - SOLD OUT!

The new RUPES Wool Cutting Pads - Nice pads! :xyxthumbs:

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Here’s just one aspect of clean-up

Washing the gel-coat out 24 RUPES Wool Cutting Pads.

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I then blew them off using the Tornador Air Blowout Gon and laid them out to air dry.

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I have not had time to process the actual picture of real people working on real boats - hope to though.



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what backing plate would i need and also how many pads roughly to do the boat?
looks like they hold up pretty well.
 
went ahead and ordered a bunch of stuff tonight that was recommend on here to tackle the job.
ordered the lake county 125MM (4-3/4") rotary backing plate. is that the right one for the rupes wool pads?

also for the waxing stage i was looking at using the meguiars Flagship Premium Marine Wax but not sure what pad to use to apply it ?

thanks again and have a great weekend.
 
went ahead and ordered a bunch of stuff tonight that was recommend on here to tackle the job.

ordered the lake county 125MM (4-3/4") rotary backing plate. is that the right one for the rupes wool pads?

Yes, I believe this is the correct pad. I'm not at work right now but I do beleive this will work fine and probably work perfect.



also for the waxing stage i was looking at using the meguiars Flagship Premium Marine Wax but not sure what pad to use to apply it ?

thanks again and have a great weekend.

I was still at Meguiar's, when this product was launched. Meguiar's chemists are top notch and this is a really nice finishing hybrid wax for use after any compounding and polishing.


The pad for this should be a simple foam polishing pad. You only need ONE pad to machine apply the wax. For all the thin sections you will want to apply by hand and either a simple foam or microfiber applicator pad will work best.


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Also

I think your DeWALT rotary comes with 2 handles. A stick handle and a hoop or D handle.

The head of the tool has a rubber overmold.

Me? I tend not to use a handle for most projects and instead, hold the head of the tool.

Also, learn to go up on edge with the rotary when using a wool pad. It will be SO MUCH easier to control.

In the video we shot this last Tuesday, I shared a few rotary techniques when I removed the sanding marks out of the 1937 Ford Wooding.

You can also see me using the rotary on edge on the hood if you want to see what looks like.

I know a lot of rotary guys will say this is the wrong way to use a rotary and you should hold the pad flat to the surface. That works for the Hulk.

Me? Whatever. All my work comes out looking good and I don't tax my muscle to death. I could work harder instead of smarter but I'm too smart for that.


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i ordered 6 white flat polishing pads by lake country to use with mothers cleaner wax on my truck. will those work with the flag ship on my boat?
 
also with the rupes wool pads on the rotary do i need the rupes rotary compound? or will i be fine with the rupes zephir gloss coarse gel compound for both on rotary and DA?
 
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