What should I do?! Need new car advice!

newcar17

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Hi everyone, first post. Glad to be here!

My wife and I bought our first new car last week.

We are loving the car but we were offered a product when we signed the papers called Simoniz glasscoat. It is a paint protector type product that protects against bird droppings, tree sap, UV rays etc etc.

We didn't buy it yet but they have come down from $500 initially to $399. This comes with a lifetime warranty that supposedly says anything that happens to the exterior or interior will be repaired, painted etc.

I talked to the person that would be applying it and they would be washing the car, then using a claybar rag to get any contaminants off, then applying the glasscoat. They apply it in a separate building where all the dealer does is clean up work, so it's not applied by a mechanic in the shop. Sounds legit but they said I couldn't watch them apply it due to Insurance reasons (customers can't be in there because floors are wet). He said it takes about 2 hours to apply to the exterior and interior.

I know you are basically paying for the "warranty". I know no product can last forever.

As another option I've found a reputable local detailer that does detail work for allot of the high end dealers in the city. He looked at the car and said if it were his car he would clay bar it and apply meguiars mirror glaze synthetic sealant. The full exterior detail job would be $275. He recommended repeating this process twice a year. This car will be mostly garaged. He said since it will not be out in the elements too much I could probably stretch it to repeating the process once per year.

Something he does for his customers is he also gives you the products needed to take care of the car between detail jobs. The meguiars car wash product, good towels, good micro fiber mit etc, no charge.

So, I am needing advice as to what to do?

I had never heard of a paint protectant or sealer until last week since I'd always bought used cars. I've never been the best about washing, waxing etc.

Would you go with the reputable dealer simoniz product for $400 with lifetime warranty or with reputable local detailer for $275 and free supplies?

Also, should I even mess with doing this during the winter months or should I wait until early spring to do it?

Thanks everyone
 
Personally, I wouldn't get it. Most people I know who opted for whatever manufacturer's "paint seal" (names differ) notice within a year that it's gone and they have zero protection on their car.
My advice is look around on here at your different options of paint cleaning and protection and keep up with it yourself.

And congrats on the new car!
Pics are always good :)
 
For $399 go to Autogeek.net:

Get some fine grade detailing clay, a Porter Cable/Griots Garage 6" polisher, some 6-10 foam polishing pads, McKees prep polish, McKees coating, and some Lake Country coating applicators. With the money left over you can coat your car for life:)

Your welcome.
 
Pass!

Either option would be skipping the most important step in prepping for a coating application, polishing the paint!
 
Welcome to Autogeek.

Because we on this forum are car nuts, most recommendations will be to take car of your new car yourself. No one loves your car like you do and there is a lot of satisfaction in keeping your ride beautiful.

Plenty of help can be found as well, starting with articles on car care.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...722-car-detailing-articles-mike-phillips.html

It can seem overwhelming with all of the available products, but keep it simple and ask questions. People here are happy to help.
 
Best bet - Save your $399, spend a couple hours to do some research and find a quality, reputable detailer in your area, and pay them to do a full prep and coating using a quality product. It will probably cost LESS than $399 for them to apply REAL long-lasting protection, and it will look MUCH better.

... or, as others have suggested, if you feel ambitious, do it yourself using products from Autogeek.
 
If you can get it in writing that they will fix any exterior defect (dents included) under warranty that sounds like a deal to me. Although if something sounds too good to be true...
 
Are you willing and able to do your own "protective" maintenance? If so, then I'd simply get a good synthetic paint sealant ("car wax") here on autogeek and apply it yourself every few months. There are lots of good options. Don't let the term "sealant" scare you. For the most part they are simply synthetic car waxes. You prep your paint (wash/dry and perhaps clay or use a clay alternative). And then apply and remove like a traditional car wax (spread on thinly and buff off with a microfiber towel).

But... that's just my two cents :)
 
Wow, thanks everyone! I think someone mentioned the detailer not polishing before putting on the meguiars mirror glaze, but he was going to polish before putting that on.

I'm leaning toward using the local detailer and having him wash, clay bar, polish, meguiars mg for the $275. And then getting the cleaning products for free from him. He said he'd gladly show me how to use the different products.

I'm thinking of just paying the $275 to get it done right so I don't screw it up, then having him teach me how to do it so I can do it myself in a year or so.

Is that stupid or a good idea?

I have never been good at washing vehicles in the past. Always have swirl marks etc, just never have used the right stuff or used proper technique I guess. I'm a little afraid to go on my own with my new baby!
 
Congrats and welcome to the forum.

I would agree and pass on the dealer prepped service. Save that money and either do it yourself or see if you can find a forum member near you that can do the work for you.

Would you be willing to do this on your own?
 
Pass on the dealer hype $$$
Save yourself over $200 and do what the local detailer is offering to do yourself. The process he's talking about it soo easy!


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Wow, thanks everyone! I think someone mentioned the detailer not polishing before putting on the meguiars mirror glaze, but he was going to polish before putting that on.

I'm leaning toward using the local detailer and having him wash, clay bar, polish, meguiars mg for the $275. And then getting the cleaning products for free from him. He said he'd gladly show me how to use the different products.

I'm thinking of just paying the $275 to get it done right so I don't screw it up, then having him teach me how to do it so I can do it myself in a year or so.

Is that stupid or a good idea?

I have never been good at washing vehicles in the past. Always have swirl marks etc, just never have used the right stuff or used proper technique I guess. I'm a little afraid to go on my own with my new baby!

Don't be afraid... we all started somewhere. Just do your homework, ask questions here, etc and you will be fine :)
 
Wow, thanks everyone! I think someone mentioned the detailer not polishing before putting on the meguiars mirror glaze, but he was going to polish before putting that on.

I'm leaning toward using the local detailer and having him wash, clay bar, polish, meguiars mg for the $275. And then getting the cleaning products for free from him. He said he'd gladly show me how to use the different products.

I'm thinking of just paying the $275 to get it done right so I don't screw it up, then having him teach me how to do it so I can do it myself in a year or so.

Is that stupid or a good idea?

I have never been good at washing vehicles in the past. Always have swirl marks etc, just never have used the right stuff or used proper technique I guess. I'm a little afraid to go on my own with my new baby!

If you don't mind sharing where you are located, I'm sure a member on this forum that is close to you would do a much better job. I'd stay away from any dealer services for detailing.
 
Thanks again everyone, you all are giving me confidence! I would enjoy doing this myself and learning. If I can save the $275 to the detailer I would rather do that. I'm in Kentucky, pretty close to Lagrange.
 
Congratulations on the new car.

No such product exists.

I look at it this way, what wipe on product can possibly be harder or tougher than the clearcoat of the original paint.

Proper maintenance over time is what will protect your paint for the long term. You don't have to be obsessive about it, a good sealant every 6 months with regular washing will provide longevity to your finish.

An excellent easy to use product is Sonax Polymer Net Shield:

Sonax Polymer Net Shield, sonax polymer netshield, sonax profiline polymer netshield

 
Wow, thanks everyone! I think someone mentioned the detailer not polishing before putting on the meguiars mirror glaze, but he was going to polish before putting that on.

I'm leaning toward using the local detailer and having him wash, clay bar, polish, meguiars mg for the $275. And then getting the cleaning products for free from him. He said he'd gladly show me how to use the different products.

I'm thinking of just paying the $275 to get it done right so I don't screw it up, then having him teach me how to do it so I can do it myself in a year or so.

Is that stupid or a good idea?

I have never been good at washing vehicles in the past. Always have swirl marks etc, just never have used the right stuff or used proper technique I guess. I'm a little afraid to go on my own with my new baby!

Welcome to AGO, newcar!!

If you don't mind spending the $275, then going with the detail guy doesn't sound like a bad deal to me. You'll get a decent protection until spring, free products, and he will teach you to use them.

In the meantime, I would come here to AGO and read, read, read. The process of proper detailing might seem overwhelming at first, but it's really a simple (and fun) process.

And.......... Never, ever feel like you cannot ask even the simplest of questions on here if you have a problem. All of us on here love our rides, and we will gladly help you out. :)
 
Welcome to AGO, newcar!!

If you don't mind spending the $275, then going with the detail guy doesn't sound like a bad deal to me. You'll get a decent protection until spring, free products, and he will teach you to use them.

In the meantime, I would come here to AGO and read, read, read. The process of proper detailing might seem overwhelming at first, but it's really a simple (and fun) process.

And.......... Never, ever feel like you cannot ask even the simplest of questions on here if you have a problem. All of us on here love our rides, and we will gladly help you out. :)

I agree! There are a lot of great suggestions here, any of which you cannot necessarily go wrong....with the unanimous suggestion being...drop nine and punt the dealer.

Learning and exploring is half the fun. If you use the detailer and spend time chatting on AGO, you will start to develop what may work for you and then you can pull the trigger on a machine and the myriad of different products offered by AG.


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where do you live? if you don't feel confident in buying the supplies and doing it yourself, someone on here can help you out...
 
Nothing wrong with going to a local detailer, assuming they're good. Reading here and learning is a great idea, but time consuming. I get why you would want some professional help.

One more idea: get an easy-to-use sealant (like Polymer Net Shield recommend above) and put that on your car (after cleaning it, of course). Then it will have some protection and look even better. Over time you can learn about correcting your paint and work on one panel at a time. The reapply the Net Shield. That would allow you to slowly learn and not be overwhelmed with trying to do the whole car at once. So you'd always have a sealant on the whole car, and you could correct the paint a little at a time.

If you go this route, read up on washing your car first. I know this may sound crazy - it's just washing a car, right? Yeah... no. That's where a lot of swirls and scratches come from. Many techniques and some real expertise here. I'm a newb so I'll just say this: the towel or sponge you use to wash your car is sandpaper as soon as it gets dirt on it. Don't rub all that dirt all over your car.

You're going to do great. You will find the help here fantastic and overwhelming. Congrats on the new car.
 
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