What should i get????

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question out of these two DA's which should i get... Porter cable or the Girots??
Not sure NEED HELP!!!

when i do buy one of those, what type of pads do i need for, WAX, POLISH,REMOVING SWIRLS??? LIKE BRANDS OR TYPE?

i have a newer car paint is in good shape, lilttle chips liltte swirls and light scarthes

so what brand DA what type of pads?

THANKS
 
This link contains articles written by Mike Phillips and has allot of great reading within. Take some time and become familiar with different options and techniques before you go out there.

Articles by Mike Phillips

Basic steps in order are:

  • Wash
  • Clay
  • Paint Correction & Polish
  • Seal
  • Wax
Make detailing enjoyable and practice. Take your time and do not become overwhelmed. Just because there are a thousand product doesn't mean you have to use them all.

Pick one product from each category from the steps above. You already have some great waxes so you're that far ahead of the game..

Autogeek has a kit section that contains everything you need to get started. For starting off I recommend a dual action polisher. These come on a variety of flavors and Autogeek carries most of them so take your time and educate yourself.

The kit pages below will give you an idea of what's available but if you do decide to purchase a Porter Cable 7424 style polisher opt for the 5 1/2" flat pads right off. The 6 1'2" are just too large and this has been confirmed many time over.


Kit Page


Car Care Kits, Car Care Cleaning Kits, Complete Detailing Kits

Decent kit

Pinnacle Twins & Meguiar's G110v2 Dual Action Polisher Kit FREE BONUS

Much better kit

Menzerna Porter Cable XP Maximum Shine Kit FREE BONUS

Flex Kit

If I were in the market for a kit this would be the one I'd choose.
Pinnacle Flex XC3401 Polishing & Swirl Remover kit, Pinnacle polishes, swirl removers, finishing polish, flex buffer
 
I'll echo Bobby, you need to do some reading first. Along with Mike P's articles, you can also check out the Detailin How-To: Dual Action Orbital Polisher Guide: how to remove swirls, scratches, & oxidation with an orbital buffer. Porter Cable 7424, foam pads, backing plate,

As far as Griot's versus Porter Cable, a lot of forum members like the Griot's because it has a bit more power. However, as Mike P poihnts out, the Porter Cable has plenty of power for what we need to do and the build quality is higher so AG sees fewer returns of these. In the end, which is your preference? Do you like power or build quality?

As far as pads, stick with the Lake Country 5.5 flat pads. They spin much easier than the larger pads, although members with the Griot's machine say it has enough power for the 6.5" pads. Alternately, you can go with the Meguiar's Microfiber Polishing system with their pads and polishes.

I want an sealant on my cars and the last step of the Megs system is a combo polish and wax. So I'd either have to strip the wax and then apply a sealant or mod the last step using something like Meg's 205 polish. I didn't feel like either that so I went with the LC pads and Wolfgang polishes with Menz Powerlock as a sealant and topped with a wax.

If you choose to go with the LC flat pads, you really only need a 6 pak of pads since you're only doing your car - 2 orange, 2 white, 1 gray and 1 blue would be fine.

IF you're only doing your car, I would seriously consider one of the new coatings like CQuartz or Opti-Coat. These reportedly last up to 3 years. If you go that route, you'll only need a polishing combo like the Wolfgang "twins", the Pinnacle XMT combo or Meg's 105/205 combo. These coatings take the place of both sealants and wax. I'll be putting CQuartz on my wife's black Lexus - black, and particularly Lexus, is a bear to maintain.

Anyway, there's some ideas. Now do A LOT of reading.
 
:iagree: Heavy Metal saved me a post, but one comment:

Look seriously at the Lake Country Hydrotech pads instead of plain flat pads. Hydrotech helps keep product on the face of the pad, not soaked into it. They work great for me, extending the working time of many products.
 
:thankyousign: thanks, ive been reading alot about this and it sounds like PC is the way to go, but ive heard that its hard to remove scratches with the PC. so idk, wolfgang and pinncele are good companies?
 
What do you mean by scratches? If you mean light hairlines, the PC and a good polish will certainly remove those. If you mean a deep scratch - ie, one you can catch with your fingernail - no, a PC (or Griot's) will not remove those. Deep scratches have gone thru the clear, into the base and sometimes into the primer. You can have a shop repaint or try a paint repair system like Dr. Color Chip. Yes WG and Pinnacle are "good" conpanies. All of the products offered on AG and most other detailing sites are top notch products.
 
I used Griots 6 in Dual orbital buffer. It works great the problems I noticed (I used Malco products) I tried it with light compound and heavy compound. I think I allowed compound to dry and did too much of an area which caused the pad to stop spinning and not remove the compound. Which I ended up removing by hand. I applied wax by hand and tried removing the wax with Griots with the bonnets but you need to use alot of bonnets to remove wax. I feel the machine needs more power when some pressure is applied you notice the pad stop spinning which is why I borrowed it from my friend to see which one to purchase. I heard about the Flex getting too hot. I am in the same boat as you.
 
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