What's the difference????

The PC will give you the ability to remove swirls, scratches, holograms as well as apply sealants and waxes. It is a dual action polisher, it both rotates and orbits which leads to a swirl free finish.

The wax spreader will do just that, spread wax. Not much ability to polish paint or do much else. It is a random orbital which is more like a vibrating head that allows thin spreading of waxes.

If you want to do any sort of paint correction, a DA would be your best bet. Do a few searches, there are tons of write up where a PC is used to get great results and Mike Philips has videos demoing how to use it properly for the desired result.
 
Any of the dual action machines AG sells are good..but for my money the
Griots Garage 6 inch is the way to go..plenty of power and it does not bog down under a heavy load. You have to let off a little on contoured surfaces but on flat panels it is the best in my opinion.
 
The PCXP 7424 you linked to is refurbished. For that price listed there you can get a new one for about $10-$15 more if you search the internet a bit. I have the GG and like it. I found mine for less than $95 after an internet search.
 
:welcome: to Autogeek Online! :props:

Stay away from Random Orbital anything if you desire to do any sort of paint correction.

This is something I've posed several times and it covers many areas at a high level but give you an idea of what's available and some of the prices.

After reading and understanding some of the basics, the more hands on your are the quicker you'll build your knowledge and gain experience.

Everyone starts off as a beginner but with some reading, questions, and trial, error, and practice you'll be amazed how much you'll be able to do.

This link contains articles written by Mike Phillips and has allot of great reading within.

Articles by Mike Phillips

Basic steps in order are:

  • Wash
  • Clay
  • Paint Correction & Polish
  • Seal
  • Wax
Make detailing enjoyable and practice. Take your time and do not become overwhelmed. Just because there are a thousand product doesn't mean you have to use them all.

Pick one product from each category from the steps above. You already have some great waxes so you're that far ahead of the game..

Autogeek has a kit section that contains everything you need to get started. For starting off I recommend a dual action polisher. These come on a variety of flavors and Autogeek carries most of them so take your time and educate yourself.


Kit Page

Car Care Kits, Car Care Cleaning Kits, Complete Detailing Kits

Decent kit

Pinnacle Twins & Meguiar's G110v2 Dual Action Polisher Kit FREE BONUS

Much better kit

Menzerna Porter Cable XP Maximum Shine Kit FREE BONUS

Flex Kit

If I were in the market for a kit this would be the one I'd choose.
Pinnacle Flex XC3401 Polishing & Swirl Remover kit, Pinnacle polishes, swirl removers, finishing polish, flex buffer

Don't overlook a one step product

One Step Product

Klasse

Klasse ALL-IN-ONE Auto Polish, Klasse All In One, klasse aio, Acrylic polish

Menzerna Sealing Wax

Menzerna Sealing Wax APO 60, Menzerna APO 60, Menzerna wax

Meguiar's D151

Meguiars Paint Reconditioning Cream D151

Pinnacle XMT

Pinnacle XMT Clean & Shine Bundle

Forum Favorite

Klasse All-In-One, Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze, Pinnacle Souveran, Pinnacle Crystal Mist Spray Wax come together to create a forum favorite kit.

Sealants

Menzerna Power Lock Paint Sealant

Menzerna Power Lock Polymer Paint Sealant, Menzerna auto sealant, car sealant, paint sealant protectant

Other quality sealants

  • Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant
  • Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze
  • DP Poli-Coat Paint Sealant
Wax

Collinite 845

Collinite Liquid Insulator Wax #845, liquid wax, heat-resistant wax, car wax

Pinnacle Signature Series ll

Pinnacle Signature Series II Carnauba Paste Wax will give you a deep, wet finish will exceed your expectations. car wax, carnauba paste wax, pinnacle
 
nissanztech said:
what does everyone recommend as far as a buffer or polisher for a beginner, Palm held or dual handle? Is there a difference between the Dual Action and the Random Orbital..:confused:

for example

Sears: Online department store featuring appliances, tools, fitness equipment and more
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See this article as it explains very thoroughly why these tools are now called "Wax Spreaders"

The Traditional Orbital Buffer aka The Wax Spreader

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nissanztech said:
and


Sears: Online department store featuring appliances, tools, fitness equipment and more

would either one hurt my paint?
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The Porter Cable you link to at Sears can also be found here with much better customer support, videos, articles, online classes, real classes and lots of pads, products and accessories...

Porter Cable 7424XP on Autogeek.net



Please take a moment to read this article as it explains in detail how this tool and knock-offs of it work and also why they are so safe yet effective for removing swirls out of modern clear coat paints.

The Free Floating Spindle Assembly - The Story Behind The Story...

Pushing down as hard as I can






This one explains why clear coats are hard to work on and you need a tool like the PC instead of a TOB or your hand...

The practical differences between single stage paints and a clear coat paints

Top: 1965 Mustang with single stage finish. Bottom: 2009 Mustang with a basecoat/clearcoat finish.
Early 1965 Mustang with single stage paint and a modern Mustang with a basecoat/clear coat finish
1965.jpg
NewMustang.jpg


All of the above articles came from here and there's over 200 more, some of which will help you when you get ready to machine polish anything...

How-To Articles


And this shows the basic differences between tools...

Show Car Garage Video: How to pick the right polisher

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:iagree:

As to the diff between DA polishers, as Mike P notes, the build quality is a little higher on the Porter Cable while the Griot's has a little more power. It's really your choice which way to go. I prefer build quality so I went with the PC. It has more than enough power when paired with the proper polishing pads.
 
:confused:

thank you
would this make any sence? if i used the Random Orbital to put wax on, and use the dual action to put on sealant, poish, or glaze? what would be the best way to put on wax, sealant, poish, and glaze? using what? and also what would the order be in steps from first to last?

im using this on a 2010 370z silver paint btw...
 
ok so No on the random orbital, Yes on the DA.. and this will not hurt my paint, like the speed buffers will?
 
:pc7424:

If i was to buy a dual action orbital polisher, whay would be the best to get?
 
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