whats the ingredient in black wax that makes it black?

[brondondolon]

well what ive done is squeezed some colinite into a eye drop bottle with the dye and shook it vigorously. I dont think this could be done with a paste wax.

 

[FUNX650]

well what ive done is squeezed some colinite into a eye drop bottle with the dye and shook it vigorously. I dont think this could be done with a paste wax.

Shaken, not stirred...Now where have I heard that before?

The first rule in becoming a "molecular mixologist" is knowing to never shake the mix more than 20 times.
(Especially if ice is ever involved )
I hope that limit was not breached.

I still think there needs to be some form of chemical reaction between, in this case, the Collinite and the dye(s).
I'll guess that your mechanical-mixing-means will be of very little, to no avail in your color-wax quest.

Bob

 

[SR99]

Another dye you might consider in your experiments:
TransTint

 

[Rmd]

I recall that back in the 80's there was a line of liquid waxes that came in colors to match vehicle's paint color. I bought some red for my bitchin' Camaro. Came from auto parts store or pep boys or equivalent. Not sure what happened to those products. I do recall the red staining the terry cloth towel I used to buff it off.
Maybe this time the idea will catch on.

 

[jankerson]

I recall that back in the 80's there was a line of liquid waxes that came in colors to match vehicle's paint color. I bought some red for my bitchin' Camaro. Came from auto parts store or pep boys or equivalent. Not sure what happened to those products. I do recall the red staining the terry cloth towel I used to buff it off.
Maybe this time the idea will catch on.

Yep, I remember that...

 

[FUNX650]

I recall that back in the 80's there was a line of liquid waxes that came in colors to match vehicle's paint color. I bought some red for my bitchin' Camaro. Came from auto parts store or pep boys or equivalent. Not sure what happened to those products. I do recall the red staining the terry cloth towel I used to buff it off.
Maybe this time the idea will catch on.

Seriously doubt it.

As an example: How many different colors of "red" are there?

Besides that:
Is a color-infused wax somehow going to be dyeing the entire clear coat paint film?

Perhaps with the help of some actual "bottom-up-nanotechnology"...
Or when pigs fly!

Bob

 

[Rmd]

I don't think the shade of red on the car mattered much. The only color enhancement going on was what happened to the white towel. As for the car, Kiwi shoe Polish would have worked better than that colored wax gimmick.

 

[Kacz]

Did they get the idea from lipstick??

I know some lipsticks have wax in them and maybe even all of them do. Of course we know lipsticks are dyed.

Edit: A quick search for the dyes in lipstick got me this....

The first thing that came up:

....The dyes used in a lipstick include bismuth oxychloride, manganese violet, titanium dioxide, D&C Red No. 6, D&C Red No. 21, D&C Orange No. 17 and D&C Red No. 34. The pigments used are either obtained from plants, or are a mixture of various chemicals.

Maybe...?

 

[FUNX650]

Did they get the idea from lipstick??

I know some lipsticks have wax in them and maybe even all of them do. Of course we know lipsticks are dyed.

Edit: A quick search for the dyes in lipstick got me this....

The first thing that came up:



Maybe...?

Historically...
It's quite possible the Transportation Industry has borrowed from the Cosmetic Industry.

Dyes, Lipsticks, other "cosmetics"---from natural and man-made sources...
have been around for centuries, Nay: Many, many millennia.

Remember Jezebel of Biblical fame?...Cleopatra?

Borrowing from the Ladies of the time:
The Pharoahs probably needed their chariots to look cosmetically-appropriate
for the races at the local Hippodrome against folks like Ben-Hur!!

Looking back through the time capsule:
It does appear this practice has continued, in one form or another, throughout the ages.

Bob

 

[Rmd]

Historically...


Remember Jezebel of Biblical fame?...Cleopatra?

Borrowing from the Ladies of the time:
The Pharoahs probably needed their chariots to look cosmetically-appropriate
for the races at the local Hippodrome against folks like Ben-Hur!!

Looking back through the time capsule:
It does appear this practice has continued, in one form or another, throughout the ages.

Bob

At last, after 1,000,000+ posts, the ancient profession of chariot detailer has finally been given its overdue...uh...due, and saved from being relegated to a mere historical footnote.

And there could be but one forum member up to the task.

Well done, Bob.
:dblthumb2:

 

[allenk4]

What are the ingredients on a can of shoe polish?

Montan Wax or black licorice extract


The interesting thing to me is that there are products like CQuartz UK that have a darkening effect and increase the numbers on a Glossmeter

 

[allenk4]

:nomore:

I don't know if it has dye or not the my Meg's Black Wax worked really good, it has fillers that does cover/ hide imperfections.
A time saver when I don't have time the do it the correct way.
It's more gray than black.

Megs Black Wax does have cleaners and abrasives in it

If you applied w/ a DA and she has soft paint; you may have actually removed some very light swirls

 

[PiPUK]

Montan Wax or black licorice extract


The interesting thing to me is that there are products like CQuartz UK that have a darkening effect and increase the numbers on a Glossmeter

The film they leave has a different refractive index which changes the way that light reflects.

It happens with all sorts. Silicone are commonplace for this reason.

 

[allenk4]

The film they leave has a different refractive index which changes the way that light reflects.

It happens with all sorts. Silicone are commonplace for this reason.

Apparently, some of the ingredients in "coatings" also have a higher refractive index than the paint itself and that is what bumps up the Glossmeter number

But, how can it also look darker at the same time?

 

[FUNX650]

RE: "whats the ingredient in black wax that makes it black"?

•Simply put:
-Coloring-agents...(pigments or dyes)...are added to the formulation, in order to "shade" the Wax-product.


Bob

 

[swanicyouth]

Somehow if you ad pigments/dyes to a wax to change the color of wax - you can't see any difference at all on paint. But, if you just wipe pigments/dyes on paint - you will see a difference.

See, all wax is the same... Be it ear wax, candle wax, Rally Wax, or even a groups WACs from 1943...

The paint doesn't know what color wax you apply to it. In order for the paint to look ANY different, it has to have a brain & a nervous system. Nothing can be made to ever look any different if it doesn't know what color you are applying to it.

See, when I paint my house. I have to say: "House, this here is blue paint"... Once the house knows (and I paint the house), the house turns blue.

 

[FUNX650]

Apparently, some of the ingredients in "coatings" also have a higher
refractive index than the paint itself
and that is what bumps up the Glossmeter number

•I have always been under the impression that the "amount of gloss", of a surface, is based on:
-The overall smoothness of the surface;
-The angles taken by the light source (θ_i = θ_r )...

e.g., The Law of Reflectivity.


Bob

 

[allenk4]

•I have always been under the impression that the "amount of gloss", of a surface, is based on:
-The overall smoothness of the surface;
-The angles taken by the light source (θ_i = θ_r )...

e.g., The Law of Reflectivity.


Bob

Would sprinkling it with metallic silver glitter increase the gloss/reflectivity?