Wheel soap

Ammo .... Dedicated wheel soap .... Formulated that way ...
 
For what it's worth, and just out of personal observation. I've found most "soaps" like dawn and apc's like meg's apc, and even different citrus cleaners to only be able to do so much. You can eventually get a wheel clean with most cleaners. It depends on the dwell time and brushes you are using. Stronger soaps, etc may get it done a little faster, but they all have a weakness. Most soaps and apc's just can't remove iron at all. They can only get the wheel to a certain level and that's where something like Ironx comes in.

I wish I would have thought of this sooner....but...

How about the new Carpro Snow Soap?

Could this be what the OP is looking for? It has the properties of a soap, while also being able to remove iron! I've been wanting to try this stuff for a while. Anybody have experience with it?
 
statusdetailing said:
Yeah and here's an awesome video that Rostan posted about it. . .

D101 as tire cleaner

There's a catch though. I've found it to stain some brake calipers when used straight like this. Awesome tire cleaner though. If you don't have sensative brake calipers I say go for it!
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Yeah looking at his videos I ended up getting a 3oz Blackice. What else can it be used for
 
Jet Black said:
Yeah looking at his videos I ended up getting a 3oz Blackice. What else can it be used for
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Well, D101 being an APC, it's good for a lot of things. It is marketed to be good for interior. It is a very high foaming product which makes it great for things like tires and wheels, but for some reason it's just a little more harsh than it's cousin, APC+ (which doesn't foam).

Being foamy, D101 works really well on porous plastic surfaces, dirty leather, in vents (especially coupled with compressed air. It's great, but I'm scared to death of it and have thought about talking to meguiars about it. It "burns" and stains dark plastic occassionally. I guess it's because it has a high PH level...around 11 if I remember right from the MSDS. The weird part is that I've never caused damage with apc+ even though it also has a fairly high PH. Just goes to show that you can't judge a cleaning product by PH...even though a ton of guys do.

I used to use it a lot, but I also used to work on a lot of crappy dealer cars, and I wasn't as worried about causing minor damage, in trade for being very affective on super dirty and neglected cars.

Like I said, lately I've just mostly been using dawn, apc+, ironx, and a citrus product to remove tar.

I'm always scared to death when I clean wheels. They are super sensative. It's funny, they are the one part of the car that probably takes the most abuse and are arguably the most sensative.
 
This topic highlights a really big terminology problem - SOAP.

Do not take this the wrong way but the American market totally misuses this term and it is extremely confusing. For starters, practically nothing you guys will use is an actual soap. Soaps are old fashioned chemicals with rather limited cleaning power and some extreme limitations, they have little or no place in automotive care. Almost everything we will use in automotive care will be a synthetic surfactant of one sort of other.

The soap term should be dropped on a forum like this. For a pH neutral or similar product, shampoo is much more appropriate. This then automatically puts alkaline or acidic cleaners into a different category so will thus differentiate the majority of wheel products. It really would remove an awful lot of ambiguity!
 
statusdetailing said:
Well, D101 being an APC, it's good for a lot of things. It is marketed to be good for interior. It is a very high foaming product which makes it great for things like tires and wheels, but for some reason it's just a little more harsh than it's cousin, APC+ (which doesn't foam).

Being foamy, D101 works really well on porous plastic surfaces, dirty leather, in vents (especially coupled with compressed air. It's great, but I'm scared to death of it and have thought about talking to meguiars about it. It "burns" and stains dark plastic occassionally. I guess it's because it has a high PH level...around 11 if I remember right from the MSDS. The weird part is that I've never caused damage with apc+ even though it also has a fairly high PH. Just goes to show that you can't judge a cleaning product by PH...even though a ton of guys do.

I used to use it a lot, but I also used to work on a lot of crappy dealer cars, and I wasn't as worried about causing minor damage, in trade for being very affective on super dirty and neglected cars.

Like I said, lately I've just mostly been using dawn, apc+, ironx, and a citrus product to remove tar.

I'm always scared to death when I clean wheels. They are super sensative. It's funny, they are the one part of the car that probably takes the most abuse and are arguably the most sensative.
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Thanks for the rundown I think I'll get a gallon and use it for tires and the engine water it down like 10:1 and try it on one of my buddy's everyday beater, since I don't detail for money the price of D101 I can't pass up.
 
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