zilla
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Absolutely man! Alot of guys on this forum and others too, get too caught up in what other people like to use. I get caught up in what I like to use! Hahaha
:buffing:WHEELS -- OPTI-SEAL on top of 3 coats of Poorboy's Wheel Sealant...
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Absolutely man! Alot of guys on this forum and others too, get too caught up in what other people like to use. I get caught up in what I like to use! Hahaha
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HeavyMetal
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You got that one nailed, bro! When I decided to make the plunge into machine polishing because the had work was just too tough and not getting it done, I hit several sites and forums. I settled on AG because there was a wider rage of products being discussed. How did I pick? I read a lot of posts, noted the products from major mfg's that got the most positive mentions and noted their pluses and minuses. Then I waited for sales and BOGOs and bought. Ya know, I haven't been dissappointed in a single product I received from AG. In fact, they all performed beyond my expectations. :dblthumb2:
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Sales an BOGO's are what kill me. That is why I have enough products to last a long time. My problem is I like to try a LOT of different things. Not because I am not happy with another product, just because I like to see the differences.
However, I agree 100% with Mike, find something you like, and use it often!!!
HeavyMetal
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Yup, I could easily do that, and have in the past. Now I stop myself when I've accomplished what I wanted. Will I try other products? Sure...but only when I've almost run out of what I'm already using. It's easier on the pocket that way.
I've had numerous BMW's over the years, kind of addicted in a way, and used just about every wheel sealant or paint sealant one could imagine on the wheels. From stock 17's thru 19" BBS RGR's. I still use and reach for PBWS on a monthly basis. When I do my biannual seals/polishes I will remove the wheels and clean everything including claying the barrels. I've used BFWD, KLASS AIO and Rejex on the wheels, 845, etc etc. To me PBWS is easy to use, a standard sized tub 16oz, lasts me close to 3 years doing two BMW's monthly and then rinse clean using a pressure washer after foaming them up with soap. I only use P21S when I'm stripping to redo them completely, every 6 months. To me you can top and try any combo but like someone else stated you are chasing maybe a 5% improvement but adding 100% extra cost with other products, does not make a ton of sense money wise. Why do you rinse/wash your wheels mutliple times a week, each time you're removing some of the protection especially if you are using a wheel cleaner? German cars are going to dust with stock pads and track pads are 10 times worse. IMO stick with the PBWS, do it on a monthly basis with the wheels on, twice a year remove them and keep to the cycle.
zilla
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I wouldn't worry about switching. PBWS is going to be fine. The way I see it, it's a simple diminishing returns situation. PBWS or any other boutique product like that is going to give you 90-95% of the protection and performance you're looking for. If you try another product, at best you're going to see a 5-10% performance bump, and that's not likely because no product out there is 100% perfect. So even if you were using a diff product, you'd be in the same situation.
18" CSL's, just silver or hyper black? I'm assuming they're the ones modbargains sells? They're my favorite wheels by far, I used to have a set of the 19" M3 ZCP version on my old M3. I wish I had never sold them, but I got such a good deal on them that I doubled my money when I sold them.
These are the type of wheels he's referring to guys...
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I love those rims - any problems with keeping them clean or the rims bending...I want to put them on my 5 series with hopes that 18 inchers are easier to keep clean.
DP WHEEL Glaze is a cleaner wax. With a potent cleaner. Just to let you know that it will remove any sealant you have underneath it. So multiple layers with that product is unnecessary and a waste of time and product.
If you are taking the time to remove the wheels and make a project out of it, I would HIGHLY suggest you use a coating product. As in Optimum Polymer Technology's Opti-Coat 2.0. Or Car Pro CQuartz. These products will last for a very long time and reapplication is unnecessary unless you do something abrasive to remove them.
Because removing the wheels for a product like Poorboys Wheel Sealant or DP Wheel Glaze is really not worth the time it takes to do so. These products have a fairly short life or around a month or 2. Thats not slighting the products, its just stating how much punishment wheels take. Between Heat, abrasion from debris, etching from chemicals (used for road maintenance), and corrosive particles (from brake's dust and debris), its very difficult to make any product last like it would on paint, unless it is an actual coating like another layer or paint (ie: Optimum Opti-coat 2.0).
Also, just to note, the sealant used in Poorboys as well as DP wheel Glaze does not need time to cure like a traditional car sealant like Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant. Both of these products can be topped within 30 minutes of there initial application. These are different chemicals than used in car paint sealants. The sealant used in poorboys cures fast. Waiting 24 hours between application is a huge waste of time.
Another great product that nobody mentioned is Prima Wheel armor. This is another cleaner/wax-sealant. And its the easier of the 3 to work with, with better results than the other 2 as well. The poorboys is also super easy to work with, but with no cleaners its important to polish the wheels first and remove all residual tar spots. Making it a 2 step product.
hope that info helps. Just to note, I have a 2011 Audi S4, so I feel your paint about brake dust. after one week of even light driving I get what looks to me to be baked on brake dust. Serious stuff to clean. I used to use P21S wheel gel, as well as DP Wheel cleaner until I got this car. Since I got the Audi, I know no longer use them. I refuse to use something that will force me to do 2 applications. I now use exclusively Sonax Full Effect wheel cleaner. Along with CG maxi Suds or Citrus Wash in the wash bucket with a ton of foam for the brush's.
Absolutely man! Alot of guys on this forum and others too, get too caught up in what other people like to use. I get caught up in what I like to use! Hahaha
no doubt. There are a lot of cases where I order the forum favorite and think to myself what the hell did I do. Because I will sometimes have another product that gives me similar results but is much easier to use.
For me, ease of use really takes the cake. I try to balance ease of use with performance first. Than I factor in price. I dont mind at all paying more for something that is significantly easier to use.
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Dunno about the 18" version as they aren't OEM BMW and thus not made by BBS. So could be a little inferior quality wise, though I haven't heard anything about them having any specific issues. Doubt they're any easier to clean, if anything probably a little harder as they're slightly smaller so smaller spaces in between the spokes.
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i like the poorboys wheel sealant. It goes on easy and removes as easy as Fuzion and no chalking. I have the DP Wheel glaze and I hate that stuff..it dust really bad when removing and is a pain in the ass to remove. I recently used Ultima trim and tire guard and it applies really easy and buffs off just as easy. I to have wheels that are a pain to clean and looking for something that gives me good protection and helps just wash away brake dust.
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