When nothing goes right
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embolism
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what kind of polisher? size/type of pads?
kind of car you are trying to polish?
I've heard ppl say that what works one day may not work the next. I haven't done many cars but Menz power finish has worked on all the cars I've done so far. Just have to change the pad to adjust the aggressiveness...
kind of car you are trying to polish?
I've heard ppl say that what works one day may not work the next. I haven't done many cars but Menz power finish has worked on all the cars I've done so far. Just have to change the pad to adjust the aggressiveness...
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I have both a Flex and PC, all kinds of LC pads from Orange to Gold, M105, M205, SIP, Power Finish. The car I was doing was a black STI and it was pretty bad to begin with so Im not sure if its more me than the car, but with that being said this isnt the first time Ive had trouble with these products. Im just tired of buying new products and them being the same as others I already have. I guess I should stop watching youtube. Everyone else makes it seem so damn easy.
Jhaight11
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:iagree: if the products are flashing too quickly. i highly recommend poorboys products. i went to their detail weekend and their products really work. used ssr 2.5 on a black focus in direct sunlight with the car being blazing hot, did not flash or dry.
LegacyGT
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It happens, sometimes it is the conditions, sometimes the paint. Try not to beat yourself up over it, have a few beers and remember tomorrow is going to be a new day. You may want to do some product trades with others to try out some other options before buying an entire bottle of something.
dougaross
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make sure your pads are clean, try working a smaller area
Here's a few ideas from Mike Phillips. Just check that you are not making some obvious procedural errors
Here's a list of the most common problems
Trying to work too large of an area at one time.
Move the polisher too fast over the surface.
Too low of speed setting for removing swirls.
Too little pressure on the head of the unit.
Too much pressure on the head of the unit so the pad quits rotating.
Not keeping the pad flat while working your product.
Too much product, too little product.
Not cleaning the pad often enough.
Here's a few ideas from Mike Phillips. Just check that you are not making some obvious procedural errors
Here's a list of the most common problems
Trying to work too large of an area at one time.
Move the polisher too fast over the surface.
Too low of speed setting for removing swirls.
Too little pressure on the head of the unit.
Too much pressure on the head of the unit so the pad quits rotating.
Not keeping the pad flat while working your product.
Too much product, too little product.
Not cleaning the pad often enough.
zilla
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Agreed, they work awesome in direct sunlight.
Honestly I don't know why they don't get much love here, but then each board always has their fav's etc.
ScubaCougr
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:iagree::iagree:
If your compound dries immediately, try misting the product with a quick squirt of cheap clay lube or QD. This has given me a couple minutes to finish polishing the panel. Ugly but it worked when I was out of options.
Temperature, humidity and car color may all play a role in changing things from day to day.
tuscarora dave
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Are you working in the shade or under a canopy? Having a trigger spray bottle of water and misting the section you are working on helps a lot with M-105. Don't be afraid to get the product a little wet while working it as it definitely has a bit more bite when wet.
What I mean by wet is to spray a light to medium, uniform mist of water on the panel section (not the pad) that you are working on and do a couple more passes until the M-105 dusts then clean your pad with a brush and start new.
So it's lightly Prime 100% of the face of the pad, add a few pea sized drops to the primed pad and begin working a 16 inch or so square section doing passes until the product flashes.
After the product flashes (which will be in just a section pass or two) spray down your uniform mist of water onto the panel section (not the pad) and before the sun dries it up, pick it up with the pad and work section passes until it disappears and the product begins to dust.
Stop, brush the crusty spent product and dead clear/paint mixture off of the pad and start this process over on a new section if you've achieved your desired results.
I find that a QD robs the product of some of it's cutting ability when used to wet the area so water it is for me but to each his own.
Practice this for a while because as I have written it out exactly as it works so well for me, it still requires a little different technique for each situation.
I fought with M-105 for 2 years getting as frustrated as one can get and until Studying the writings of Kevin Brown and chatting back and forth with him a few times I was getting nowhere. Pretty much immediately after taking the above advice from him I was producing some very nice finishes with the 105/205 combo.
I hope this helps you out some, TD
What I mean by wet is to spray a light to medium, uniform mist of water on the panel section (not the pad) that you are working on and do a couple more passes until the M-105 dusts then clean your pad with a brush and start new.
So it's lightly Prime 100% of the face of the pad, add a few pea sized drops to the primed pad and begin working a 16 inch or so square section doing passes until the product flashes.
After the product flashes (which will be in just a section pass or two) spray down your uniform mist of water onto the panel section (not the pad) and before the sun dries it up, pick it up with the pad and work section passes until it disappears and the product begins to dust.
Stop, brush the crusty spent product and dead clear/paint mixture off of the pad and start this process over on a new section if you've achieved your desired results.
I find that a QD robs the product of some of it's cutting ability when used to wet the area so water it is for me but to each his own.
Practice this for a while because as I have written it out exactly as it works so well for me, it still requires a little different technique for each situation.
I fought with M-105 for 2 years getting as frustrated as one can get and until Studying the writings of Kevin Brown and chatting back and forth with him a few times I was getting nowhere. Pretty much immediately after taking the above advice from him I was producing some very nice finishes with the 105/205 combo.
I hope this helps you out some, TD
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