Which coatings dont care if they are topped?

[fightnews]

To Whom it may concern:
The following biased opinion is from a:
Superannuate's point-of-view.
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•Short Answer Package:
-Yes...Once ("true") Coatings have totally cured, Finishing Waxes can be applied over them without causing damage to the Coatings.
-No Cleaner-Waxes.


•Long Answer Package:
-Includes everything in the Short Answer Package, plus
-The following:

However...
•By now, everyone that deals in Coatings, young or old, should know this:
-Layering-Waxes-over-Coatings-Practice is pointless in that
(although ephemeral) it does change the behavior of the different contaminates and water(s) that land upon vehicle' surfaces until the Waxes have been degraded.
-Coatings do stay cleaner if Waxes (and Sealants, as far as that goes) are left out of the equation.


BTW:
•Does anyone, including Detailers-by-trade,
still "layer" Waxes over Sealants?

-If so: Isn't that old-school?
-If not: What's going to protect the Sealant then?
-Ad infinitum; ad nauseum.


Bob

Your attitude towards the subject is flawed as you're only seeing it in the terms of protection. You're leaving out the fact that people want to top the glassy look of the coating. The warm look of a wax adds more dimension to the overall look of the paint and coating. Protection is only half of the equation. If that,

 

[TMQ]

He is a retired guy who is a little old school when it comes to wax. I explained that the coating would be sufficient protection and waxing will not be necessary. He then asked "but what will protect the coating then"? I kind of get it, its what he does. Its my job to choose the right product to apply to his truck.

Flawed logic. Ask him what is he going to do to protect the wax then?

Tom

 

[FUNX650]

Your attitude towards the subject is flawed as you're only seeing it in the terms of protection. You're leaving out the fact that people want to top the glassy look of the coating. The warm look of a wax adds more dimension to the overall look of the paint and coating. Protection is only half of the equation. If that,

:laughing: Almost Too Funny! :laughing:


Bob

 

[DetailZeus]

Topping is useful
If the performance of the coating has dropped
As it nears the end of its life
But you are not yet ready,
To polish the vehicle

 

[392hemi]

I still don't get the obsession of topping coatings. I get that we are all obsessed and own so many waxes, but then top the coating with those coating boosters that's exist to maintain the look and properties.

Otherwise just use a sealant and top away.

The way most people top here, you can never get a true durability read on a coating.

 

[Dan K]

If you are referring to a monthly hand application of a wax, I agree with others that a sealant would be a better choice for his vehicle instead of a coating.

If he doesn't mind more of a monthly spray wax application I would apply PNS as the base protection followed by monthly uses of Brilliant Shine Detailer. Cleanability and water behavior of a coating, synergy of products.

 

[fightnews]

I have a customer that wants a correction and coating on his 1 year old truck. He likes the cleanability of a coating but loves to wax his car monthly. What coatings "dont mind" being topped? The previous owner of his wifes benz had it coated and he loves how clean the car stays and easy it is to wash. I searched the forum and found many reviews but no such info on which coatings can be topped with out harming the coating.

Thanks

Not much solid science on if they should be topped or what happens compatiblity wise. Pinnacle black label coatings say specifically they were designed to be topped