Which has better quality Mothers or Meguiars?

@Acuras82, how did mothers ceramic coat fail you? I believe a company can’t get better if we don’t speak voices.
 
TrustJesus said:
@Acuras82, how did mothers ceramic coat fail you? I believe a company can’t get better if we don’t speak voices.
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Poor longevity was the big one. 4-5 weeks tops for me when it was hyped for 12 months longevity. Forrest, the Mother’s rep who has posted on this forum was well aware of the disappointment of many here, and he himself was disappointed with our accounts. He had stated they were looking into why the retail product was getting such different results than their lab testing, and they were looking how to correct it.

Nothing came from that as far as I’m aware. And if something had, I personally wouldn’t have cared due to the heavy hype, it was already a disappointment, and there’s tons of other choices in this genre. No need to have a 4 week Spray Sealant with mediocre performance that hardens towels.

Search for CMX articles from early-mid 2019 and you should find plenty about this. Voices have been heard.
 
Thanks, I’m new here wasn’t aware. Do you have experience with Meguiars Hybrid ceramic liquid wax? I just applied it yesterday. How long is that supposed to last? To top it off it rained today.
 
TrustJesus said:
Thanks, I’m new here wasn’t aware. Do you have experience with Meguiars Hybrid ceramic liquid wax? I just applied it yesterday. How long is that supposed to last? To top it off it rained today.
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I don’t have experience with that, but it’s interested me. This is the thick liquid that applies like sealant, not the spray, correct?

I have used Megs Hybrid Ceramic Detailer, it’s awesome. There’s mixed results on Megs Hybrid Ceramic Spray Wax, but mostly because of application I think. But those who like it seem to get great results, beading, longevity. So my mind says that Megs knows what they’re doing with their ceramic line. I’m interested to hear how the liquid wax works for you (or the spray wax if that’s what you meant).
 
@Acura it’s the liquid not the spray one. I like it, although I don’t even know how to tell when it’s needs replaced. It rained and the water beaded great, and it didn’t leave water spots after it dryed. How do you tell when the wax needs replacing other then spraying water on it?
 
TrustJesus said:
@Acura it’s the liquid not the spray one. I like it, although I don’t even know how to tell when it’s needs replaced. It rained and the water beaded great, and it didn’t leave water spots after it dryed. How do you tell when the wax needs replacing other then spraying water on it?
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I think seeing the beading go away is the main way to know *something* needs to be done. A couple washes with a good soap like Reset or other glossless soaps could prove that the sealant is still there but was covered in gunk, or might confirm that it is simply degraded away. At this point you can feel the paint when clean. If it doesn’t feel slick anymore and feels almost rubbery or even squeaky clean, then the protection is all but gone. Generally though, if a product beads nice when applied, and stops beading nice even after washing a few times, then assume that the majority is degraded and re-apply.
 
Thanks man like I said I’m totally new. Depending on what you like it’s nice product, although it took me a while to apply by myself. I find that sprays is faster but I assume the liquid wax last longer. Either way, I like it and I would probably buy again.
 
TrustJesus said:
Thanks man like I said I’m totally new. Depending on what you like it’s nice product, although it took me a while to apply by myself. I find that sprays is faster but I assume the liquid wax last longer. Either way, I like it and I would probably buy again.
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Like Mike P always says: "Find something you like, and use it often." :)
 
both brands have quality products. it's just preference on what you prefer after trying out a product and seeing for yourself... :dblthumb2:
 
VISITOR said:
both brands have quality products. it's just preference on what you prefer after trying out a product and seeing for yourself... :dblthumb2:
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^^^ Simply put, this is the answer. ^^^^
 
acuRAS82 said:
Poor longevity was the big one. 4-5 weeks tops for me when it was hyped for 12 months longevity. Forrest, the Mother’s rep who has posted on this forum was well aware of the disappointment of many here, and he himself was disappointed with our accounts. He had stated they were looking into why the retail product was getting such different results than their lab testing, and they were looking how to correct it.

Nothing came from that as far as I’m aware. And if something had, I personally wouldn’t have cared due to the heavy hype, it was already a disappointment, and there’s tons of other choices in this genre. No need to have a 4 week Spray Sealant with mediocre performance that hardens towels.

Search for CMX articles from early-mid 2019 and you should find plenty about this. Voices have been heard.
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YES!!! I steered clear of mentioning this in my earlier response on this thread. I figured if someone brought it up I would concur in some manner.

Forrest's illustrations at that time was (prior to official release) that CMX was a "true coating". It sold me right there. I wanted Mothers to succeed and I had implicit trust in Forrest. He mentioned something to the effect we would get at least 6 months of durability (I don't recall the exact words but this is what I recall). I purchased the product; was tough to apply which kinda gave me confidence on the durability front but after 2 weeks it broke down horribly. By week 3 I had to think about applying it again. Forrrest then commented the folks were looking into it in Mothers and that's the last I heard. I visit the Mothers forum every few months, but alas no real commentary. Poor testing plain and simple - felt bad that Forrest seemed to have been deceived from within. As I mentioned in my previous thread - still like some of their products - have their soaps, waxes and VLR.

Had this event *not* occurred I would have touted them a bit more than Meguiars, but again one bad product launch doesn't kill a company but it does taint the brand a little.
 
Guys your feedback has been insane for this thread. For the record I do like both, I started with Mothers products then Meguiar’s. To Be honest with you, I’ve used both wheel and tires cleaners from both companies, honestly Mothers one cleaned my rims better. I guess certain products are more suitable for each cars, God bless
 
OP: both lines offer many high quality products and as others have stated "value" is a subjective item when you lump everything those two companies make into one choice. I apply Mike Phillips rule, find something you like and use it often!!


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Many years later I got to meet Barry Meguiar for the 1st time and I told him about my 1st car and about how Gold Class Car Wash was the 1st car care product that really made an impression on me and that I always felt like there was good people behind the product. The man was so nice, I can’t even tell you how nice it was to actually get to meet him and be able to express that to him.

Some people would like to meet Michael Jordan.. For me meeting Barry Meguiar was way better than that.

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I’ve met him several times since that 1st time and he’s always the same nice gentleman. I can’t say I’ve met or even heard of a Mr. Mothers... You see, I really didn’t want to pick sides but hey..

Just my 2 cents.
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You are I are similar when it comes to who we would prefer to meet. I had the distinct pleasure of meeting Barry Meguiar at the Chicago Auto show a long, long time ago. Even in that madness he was polite and a gentleman. He especially enjoyed that my license plate was CARCRZY (still have it) which was about me, not his products, however he went to the area behind the walls and came out with two giant bags of swag for me! In ensuing years when I'd swing by their display he was always that same polite gentleman. I can't say I know him but at least during the few times I got to say hi he was nice and respectful.
 
There is also something to be said for a company such as Meguire's.

You could buy everything needed to detail a car from just one brand.

That shows the passion of the company pertaining to pro's & enthusiasts alike.


Griot's is another company you could say the same thing about.

No wonder 90% of my arsenal has one of these gentleman's names on the bottle/product. :)
 
PaulMys said:
There is also something to be said for a company such as Meguire's.

You could buy everything needed to detail a car from just one brand.

That shows the passion of the company pertaining to pro's & enthusiasts alike.


Griot's is another company you could say the same thing about.

No wonder 90% of my arsenal has one of these gentleman's names on the bottle/product. :)
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Agree..I'm a big fan of meguiars detailer line and I own alot of it...but if I had to choose only one brand to buy it would be griots I love everything they do

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I agree with PaulMys and Rrthomas78 on Mothers, Meguires and Griots having an entire line-up and why that matters. One of the major advantages prior to finding Autogeek decades ago, it seems is that both Mothers and Meguires are readily available. That still holds true today. However once you get the Autogeek bug and they own your credit card balance :laughing: then that may be a moot issue.

I will say that the entire Griots line is made up of really good to excellent products. Can not go wrong with any of them. Do they have the absolute 'best' (which is almost a totally subjective measure btw) in every category, no (no one line does) but they cover every base really well.
 
TrustJesus said:
Guys your feedback has been insane for this thread. For the record I do like both, I started with Mothers products then Meguiar’s. To Be honest with you, I’ve used both wheel and tires cleaners from both companies, honestly Mothers one cleaned my rims better. I guess certain products are more suitable for each cars, God bless
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Agree on Mothers Wheel & Tire... use them to this day. I have a bit more than a gallon right now.
 
That is the first ever wheel and tire cleaner I got. It cleaned so good that I hardly actually cleaned rim. It is expensive the gallon, and I find it expensive just for my vehicle.

I got the Meguiars wheel and tore cleaner and found I had to spray a bit more. But of course not going bash anyone, they both solid.
 
Meguiar's professional line of products (non paint correction related) have always met or exceeded my expectations, but I can't look past their 32oz bottle/labeling quality. It's pure laziness to me when a company can't get such a simple thing down.

Labels
I like product labels for my 32oz chemicals because it's a professional look and a quick and easy way to identify products. If you compare Meguiar's labels to Mother's labels, the Meg's labels look like they were designed by a 10 year old. Without exaggeration, I can't think of a single chemical in any industry that has labeling that looks as unprofessional as the Meg's 32oz bottles (I apologize for the harshness). The good news is it seems like someone in Meg's marketing department has woken up with their M122 Surface Prep labeling. MUCH cleaner look that I'm not embarrassed to display to my customers. I pray that they continue in this direction.

Bottles
Griot's has the right idea in terms of their bottle shape. 32oz bottles need a wider base so they're not tipping over every two seconds. A wider base also means bottles don't have to be as tall and can easily fit into all areas of a vehicle. I'm not saying bottles need to follow the exact same Griot's formula as they look a little unorthodox, but it's almost like Meguiar's went out of their way to make their bottles as skinny and as tall as they possibly could.

I'm not sure if it's a cost thing or if Meguiar's simply doesn't care, but I truly hope they update their bottle/labeling quality. If it's a cost thing, I personally won't mind forking over the extra $1 or $2 for reasonable quality. Good day all
 
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