Which is your main "go-to" AIO (All In One)?

hernandez.art13 said:
I used a Rupes 21 with a LC 7" white kompressor pad. and 5.5" polishing pad on my HF DA for the bumpers.

There were some paint imperfections that M66 and the combo I described wasn't able to tackle (waterspots) it did remove a lot of water spots, but some were really etched in the paint. I would have stepped it up, if the job called for it.

I was really impressed with M66, it added a lot of gloss, removed some water spots and was really easy to work with, especially given the fact that I was indirect sunlight.

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for a truck that big, I would price it at $400 for an AIO
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hernandez.art13 said:
oh and off topic: I was really proud of myself because I tackled this job completely by myself (hard for me to get on tall things). I did use Oneway's generator and his M66 though, but did bumper to bumper and rocker moldings to the roof. (Polished the roof all by myself, I even yelled at Tommy (Oneway Detailing) while I was up there polishing away "Hey Tommy look at me!!!" :D

The truck was full of mud and dirt, probably took it off roading or something, so I asked the owner if he could take it down to the local car wash and spray off all the mud.

I then did a waterless wash, clay, AIO and spray wax.

cleaned the windows and undercarriage.

Finally I did a waterless wash on the wheels and dressed the tires.

and thank you very much
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Sounds like the M66 really performs well for an AOI based on your testing.

So you used the white polishing pad the whole time for the body with the M66? Is that the equivelant to like a lake country "ccs" white pad in match and performance for M66? I have a few of those pads currently.

Also is it an immediate wipe off or were you able to do large sections and come back with the wipe later?

Wondering how well the D151 would do compared to the M66 on black vehicles with swirling...

Haha nice job on doing the whole thing yourself Art! That is a BIG truck to tackle especially in the sun. :xyxthumbs:

In your opinion when you do a full detail for a large truck like that would you include an interior detail with leather conditioning as apart of the package?

Reason I ask is because I have a few friends with some large trucks so trying to figure out the best way to go about a price point with them knowing its a huge job for a full in and out detail but still well priced.

Oh and thanks again man for your in depth answers I really do appreciate it!
 
JoeHotRod said:
Sounds like the M66 really performs well for an AOI based on your testing.

So you used the white polishing pad the whole time for the body with the M66? Is that the equivelant to like a lake country "ccs" white pad in match and performance for M66? I have a few of those pads currently.

They both are polishing pads and by LCC so I would assume that they are in fact pretty equivalent, but can't say for sure, you can always call LC to find out for sure, and yeah I used the white polishing pad for the paint, and not just one pad for the whole truck lol.

Also is it an immediate wipe off or were you able to do large sections and come back with the wipe later?

As being an immediate wipe off, I am not to sure. However, I did do my section and passes and then just moved on. It wiped off really easily, from my understanding it's a DAT product. So it would make sense to me that one you worked the product long enough to break it down, one would just wipe it off. It wiped off really easily, so let's say you do forget to wipe off a section. I don't think you'd be battling to remove it like you would D151. If you work D151 to long and forget to wipe it off, you might hate the world for a while. :laughing:

Wondering how well the D151 would do compared to the M66 on black vehicles with swirling...

Do you mean removing "swirling" or causing "swirling" as in hazing? I have used D151 on multiple black cars and it worked great.

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^This car got D151 with a Rotary/wool pad, followed by M205 on a polishing pad on the Rupes.

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^This one just got D151 with a Meguiar's Synthetic xpress spray wax for the final wipe.

I think when using whatever product one chooses, finding the right combo really helps finishing the trick, machine, pads, passes, etc...

Haha nice job on doing the whole thing yourself Art! That is a BIG truck to tackle especially in the sun. :xyxthumbs:

I knew I could do the whole truck, just not in the sun with such ease. That's where I really started to love M66. Doing the whole truck wasn't a big deal to me, except the roof, that is where I had to think more than twice, but just said to myself "it's now or never" and thanks :dblthumb2:

In your opinion when you do a full detail for a large truck like that would you include an interior detail with leather conditioning as apart of the package?

I guess it all depends on you, if you agree to do the truck and they are willing to pay you $400. If they say, can you do some leather work to it for me? (Like a lather cleaner and conditioner) it's up to you if you want to take the $400 and say, ok sounds good and accept the $400. Trying to up sell the leather and conditioner won't hurt to try, but in the end do you want to walk away with $400 and have pictures of your work to show off? or maybe you can pass that offer up, because it's not your cup of tea.

I didn't do any interior work, (kinda like that about car shows, and I'm sure it's always a base by case basis, most of the work is for exterior only) Plus, people passing by are attracted to you work like bees to honey, and the ones that do are mostly car guy's, who have their cars at the car shows, which most of the time are beautiful cars, so it's a perfect marketing strategy. So it's a perfect time to start handing out business cards, getting new customers, and exchanging phone numbers.

Reason I ask is because I have a few friends with some large trucks so trying to figure out the best way to go about a price point with them knowing its a huge job for a full in and out detail but still well priced.

$400 sounds good to me, especially when it's in my pocket after doing the work, doing a walk around with the customer and him/her handing me the money lol, I know that other might say, I charge $1k for that job and takes me 10 days. Not disagreeing with them and good for them to, but I was at the car show and my car didn't show up so it was either do the vehicle or just go help out my friend and probably no pay, (would always help out a friend though) but glad I had my own customer that day. Im the MAN

I would do an interior/exterior. Such as door jambs, vacuum, dashboard wipe down, clean the windows, wheels and tires, clay and an AIO. If the vehicle exterior is not to dirty just do a waterless wash on the paint. As far as doing the leather, that choice will be up to you, if you want to do it as part of the package, up sell it, or just walk away from the deal.

Oh and thanks again man for your in depth answers I really do appreciate it!

NP, always happy and willing to help as much as I can :dblthumb2:
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It's not letting me send the message by just answering your quotes, so just trying to use up some space lol. Oh and I bought a storage cabinet on Amazon today too. should be here Sat. since I used Amazon Prime. :cruisin:
 
Do you apply using a polishing technique/speed or like you are just putting on a coat of wax. Never used a AIO before other than cleaner waxes. I assume you need to polish to remove the defects you can remove and then haze and wipe or just wipe off?
 
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^ I used HD Speed for this job. I didn't have D151 yet. I used a Rupes 21 with white polishing pad. I would say I used more of a polishing technique like I would with M205, but maybe the speed bumped up a little fast so more like 3-4. Worked great and no complaints.

That's why it's always great idea to do a test spot to dial in your technique before doing the whole car.

oh and forgot my camera for this job, so these were taken using my cell phone. :D
 
I have a grey car coming up, that is getting a 1 step, and I have a brand new bottle of Optimum GPS. So might as well use it, I'll take pictures and post my thoughts when the time comes. So stay tuned!
 
I really like Klasse AIO.

I dampen a microfiber applicator pad and it's a breeze to apply to almost any paint.
 
Rotary - Meguiar's D151
Dual Action - Blackfire Total Polish and Seal
 
hernandez.art13 said:
It's not letting me send the message by just answering your quotes, so just trying to use up some space lol. Oh and I bought a storage cabinet on Amazon today too. should be here Sat. since I used Amazon Prime. :cruisin:
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Haha all good man at least the red was a good idea to make your answers stand out.

I don't see a way to respond to your questions so I'll open another browser and try reading and answering each that way lol.

Ok for the polishing pads I'll call LCC and look into it some more between the two types but you are probably right about them being similar. When I called autogeek to place the order the guy had mentioned the CCS pads were as newer style LCC pad which is why I went with it.

For the black cars I mean as far as removing the small scratches as well as all the spider-webbing since black you can see these items the most... So what I'm asking is with the D151 or the #66 are those AIO polishes able to remove those issues more-so associated with black colored cars, or would you still use some type of compound before the D151 or #66, because then in that case it's almost like a 2-step process. Just wasn't sure of these AOI's are capable of that with a DA like the Porter Cable 7424 XP that I currently have.

So like in the case of the black car you posted with the 50/50 hood in a way now the D151 has become a pre-buff to a 2-step since you followed it with M205 right? I don't have a rotary so I'm wondering how much minor defect can I get out with my DA and D151 or M66... Do I have to have a rotary for darker colored cars such as black ones most especially? (I have lots of friends with black so I'm sure it will be fun :) haha

That Porche looks gorgeous man excellent work!

Yea I know what you mean each car type, make, model all need a certain combo. I'm just trying to figure out if I should really consider the D151 or M66 as apart of my arsenol when relating to 1-steps on dark colored cars or will I pretty much have to always do a 2-step with black vehicles of course depending on the condition of the paint, but more-so just on overall average being that most people now go through the express "cheap" car washes and just about all of them have spider-webbing, swirls and haze.

So now based upon your M66 experience do you think that will be your new "go-to" over the D151?

Thanks again man this is all extremely helpful especially when reading through the forums, web and watching videos till like 3am or 4am every night lol. I've been cleaning and detailing all my family and friends cars since I was a teenager and I'm 32 now and so many friends/family see how much time and effort I put into this and my close attention to detail so they all want their cars done now haha. I just want to really really get good at this.
 
I personally thought HD Speed sucked. Always gummed up and I wasnt impressed with its advertised cut/polish ability.
 
Poli Seal turns out a beautiful AIO finish that has a great shine and lasts longer than any other I've used. Great UV protection as well. Goes on like butter and wipes off well also. It's a nice creamy product.
 
Uh... D151 (when not wanting to top it with a coating being as it has wax), FG400 (it's just silly how darned good that stuff is), and for a lot of things this last year D300 has really been used a lot, (with Megs MF, orange, green, white & black LC pads) just depends on what you want/need to acomplish.

Zelfiris said:
I'm interested to know what everyone is using to go with D151. Which polisher and pad?

I can't get any cut with D151 on Rupes polishers and Rupes pads
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See the above. But for D151 usually orange or white LC pads.

You can't get cut with Rupes pads? Really?!?!!!! :dunno: Try the blue one and see what happens. :eek: I was afraid to use that pad for the longest time. Still haven't with 151, but have with Menzerna stuff as well as WG 3.0 as they all have more oils to them than Meguiar's stuff. I know though that the yellow Rupes pad should be able to really work for ya'. Unless.... you've got some crazy hard GM paint, which I know it doesn't cut to well with when using foam pads.
 
PapaSmurf said:
I personally thought HD Speed sucked. Always gummed up and I wasnt impressed with its advertised cut/polish ability.
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Sorry to hear, it can cut on lighter paints with a rupes really well. I can see the gumming factor, most of the HD/3D line is very "thick" in the lubricating factor.
 
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