Which product to by Meguiars, Menzerna or Duragloss?

weekendwarrior said:
I think the most important pieces of information above are "if you don't know what you are doing". Newbies generally do not, and may not have the time to spend countless hours perfecting technique. I think if that information is passed onto people here in the 101 section it would be helpful To them, it sure would have helped me versus the "just get m105/m205" countless replies we always see.

A better option would be the Megs UC/UP or Wolfgang twins/Menzerna options IMHO for someone just starting out, or even an AIO that wipes off EASILY versus M105 which really isn't needed for a beginner, and quite frankly, could be harmful to your paint if not used properly since its SMAT and doesn't breakdown (unlikely with a DA but you never know what someone will do out there).
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I mean I will use 105, but only if I have to. I'll reach for UC much more often just because its not so finicky.
 
I ordered some Wolfgang swirl remover and Menz SF4500. Hopefully, these will work well for me.
 
In my opinion, M105 is only needed in extreme circumstances (i.e., situations where heavy-duty paint correction is required). As others have stated, it's not an easy product to work with at all. As such, I rarely use M105; and rarely have to need to use it.

Meguiars Ultimate Compound is a MUCH easier product to use. UC followed by M205 is a great combination. Without pictures, it's hard to say -- but I'd be willing to bet that UC+M205 will satisfy your needs.
 
jhs2992 said:
In my opinion, M105 is only needed in extreme circumstances (i.e., situations where heavy-duty paint correction is required). As others have stated, it's not an easy product to work with at all. As such, I rarely use M105; and rarely have to need to use it.

Meguiars Ultimate Compound is a MUCH easier product to use. UC followed by M205 is a great combination. Without pictures, it's hard to say -- but I'd be willing to bet that UC+M205 will satisfy your needs.
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I just finished the roof on my sons 15 year old 4Runner (in another thread). The paint was so dry 105 just wouldn't hardly MOVE on it. I used UC to get some oils in it, then very lightly started with 105, then more UC on top. Finally went to 205 topped with UP for more oils. Wish I'd had a bottle of #7 sitting around so I could have primed it with that first. ;)

Did the LSP stage with M21 then ULW and it's darned nice. :xyxthumbs: Perhaps after some #26 on it it'll do what I want. :laughing:
 
jhs2992 said:
In my opinion, M105 is only needed in extreme circumstances (i.e., situations where heavy-duty paint correction is required). As others have stated, it's not an easy product to work with at all. As such, I rarely use M105; and rarely have to need to use it.

Meguiars Ultimate Compound is a MUCH easier product to use. UC followed by M205 is a great combination. Without pictures, it's hard to say -- but I'd be willing to bet that UC+M205 will satisfy your needs.
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Agreed. Meg's UC often doesn't get the credit it deserves. It provides a little less cut, but, I can finish down better with it than 105.
 
95oRANGEcRUSH said:
Agreed. Meg's UC often doesn't get the credit it deserves. It provides a little less cut, but, I can finish down better with it than 105.
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^^^ Agree. Being an OTC product people lable it as subpar product. I find myself using UC more often than using M105.
 
I was recommended last night to buy the UC from CM8 6MT.
Glad I bought it now.
 
weekendwarrior said:
I think the most important pieces of information above are "if you don't know what you are doing". Newbies generally do not, and may not have the time to spend countless hours perfecting technique. I think if that information is passed onto people here in the 101 section it would be helpful To them, it sure would have helped me versus the "just get m105/m205" countless replies we always see. QUOTE]

I got my GG6 last December on an Amazon Gold Box deal and knew I would have a few months of cold weather before I'd have a chance to use it so spent the time reading and watching videos on AG and other detailing websites. I am so glad I didn't fall into the 105/205 trap as a beginner. I settled on a group of products not sold by AG, but with no dusting, long work times, easy removal and no heavy oils left behind and I've had fantastic results from the beginning without the problems you see beginners posting on the various websites. With everything else you're trying to learn as a beginner it was great to not have to worry about the products you're using.
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cardaddy said:
Wish I'd had a bottle of #7 sitting around so I could have primed it with that first. ;)
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That would of looked even sweeter. Im on the edge with #7, it benefits mostly SS paints. Im debating of sticking with it or getting some CG Glaze as an alternative replacement for CC paint systems.
 
CM8 6MT said:
That would of looked even sweeter. Im on the edge with #7, it benefits mostly SS paints. Im debating of sticking with it or getting some CG Glaze as an alternative replacement for CC paint systems.
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I've use #7 a few times now just testing on our DDs. I've still never been able to tell a difference with or without it. Paint is fully corrected so there isn't anything to fill or hide. Maybe I'm just blind but I can't notice any more gloss or depth. I haven't used it on SS though which is where it shines from what I understand.

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Nicholas@Autowerx said:
I've use #7 a few times now just testing on our DDs. I've still never been able to tell a difference with or without it. Paint is fully corrected so there isn't anything to fill or hide. Maybe I'm just blind but I can't notice any more gloss or depth. I haven't used it on SS though which is where it shines from what I understand.

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I agree, ill be keeping my bottle of #7 to use with my customers SS paint.
 
Hi. I'm a newbie and I appreciate all this info before I get to work.. I've bought and returned the v line polishers from cg and a set of 105/205/SF4500 is on its way from AG.. Do you suggest I get something else instead ? I want to start with the right products and leave it to human error .. In other words work smarter, not harder from the get go.
 
drcasper said:
Hi. I'm a newbie and I appreciate all this info before I get to work.. I've bought and returned the v line polishers from cg and a set of 105/205/SF4500 is on its way from AG.. Do you suggest I get something else instead ? I want to start with the right products and leave it to human error .. In other words work smarter, not harder from the get go.
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You cant go wrong with Meguiar's & Menzerna products. However...I would highly suggest you take it slow.

Spend your efforts into learning proper technique & how to work with the products you already have(or in your case on the way) before you start thinking about other products that you dont have. Thats a great way to work "smarter".

Theres alot of products out there and its easy to get entangled in the hobby. Once you feel confident enough, then you can start adding additional polishes, lsp's, pads & chemicals to your arsenal in order to AID you in achieving whatever goals you have in mind. Make sense?
 
Woo. I can get uc/up/m205 for $40dls ? Daaang I might just buy that stuff at pepboys
 
My girl's car needs to be repainted pretty much :/ I'll practice there :)
 
drcasper said:
Woo. I can get uc/up/m205 for $40dls ? Daaang I might just buy that stuff at pepboys
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IMO that would be an excellent choice! ;) To the UC, then 205, top off with UP. Just did the hood and fenders of the 4Runner with that combo plus M21 then ULW and it is awesome!

I've found a 2 step way to make 105 start better on a new surface that's particularly dry.
1: Instead of priming the pad with 105 I use UC. Then do 3 drops ONLY of 105, (speed setting on 2) to prime the area. The 105 ends up working where normally it just didn't want to work.
2: Change to a new pad after no more than half the hood.
I've tried a larger area and the pad just loads up, then the product doesn't want to leave the paint. Darn stuff sits there like glue!

Disclaimer: This was with LC 5½" flat pads, both yellow and orange were used in this manner with good results. Pads were "cleaned on the fly" after each section pass. Each half of the hood was divided into 3 sections (due to smaller pads) which covered the tops of the fenders over to the style line as well as a large overlap in the center (basically 60% of the hood surface).
 
What are the recommended foam colors for UC/UP? Would megs MF work with UC/UP with any real success?
 
Hellspawn said:
What are the recommended foam colors for UC/UP? Would megs MF work with UC/UP with any real success?
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Really depends on the paint and what you're trying to accomplish. Mild swirls perhaps? Two words, "Test Spot"! :)

UC doesn't have near the cut of 83 / 105 / 101 etc. so you can go with more cut in the pad *IF* you need it. Just everyday mild swirls, 5½" flat/CCS etc. start with a white pad, do 2 section passes in each direction (4 total), then take a look at it. If you think it needs a bit more correction then hit it with orange pads, same 4 COMPLETE section passes total. Might end up you can do what you want with the white and 6 ~ 8 section passes.

Now if you were using 101 / 105 that'd be a different story. First.... you'd be lucky to GET 4 passes outta' it. :eek: OTOH I've found that white pads (of all sizes) are great to have around. They will polish to LSP easily, just as they will (with cutting compound) provide enough cut to get to most of what you'll run across in garage kept DD's as well.
 
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