Which wax/sealant offers the highest level of UV protection?

chilly said:
I look forward to his findings

I wonder what the UV blocking % threshold is to consider a product as "effective" or worthwhile

You would also have to consider that most of us don't just have a single application of OCW on our vehicles, it is frequently a 2nd, 3rd, or even more layer in our own personal "system" of protection

How do you quantify that?

If each layer has a bit of protection does the cumulative total of each layer increase as a simple x+y+z formula or is the protection exponential

Talk about a can of worms

I know from personal experience that rubber/vinyl treated with 303 lasts longer than without

No, I didn't use a gauge or meter or anything other than my eyes, a notebook, and a calendar but I know what my results were

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things like leather and vinyl absorb things similar to your skin. On paint you are wiping off 99% of any protection you are applying. I think just oils in general help keep leather and things less dried out and I don’t think it is necessarily from UV protection. UV protection inside the car is kind of pointless anyways because glass blocks UV rays.

Based on what I understand scientifically and what was explained in those other videos is that the perceived UV protection is likely an indirect result of keeping paint cleaner and leather and vinyl more moisturized and pliable. I think to leave any sort of legit uv protection you would probably have to slather a thick coat of sun tan lotion to achieve any benefit. I think the stuff needs a thick layer to absorb any of the UV.
 
EddieVDetailing said:
things like leather and vinyl absorb things similar to your skin. On paint you are wiping off 99% of any protection you are applying. I think just oils in general help keep leather and things less dried out and I don’t think it is necessarily from UV protection. UV protection inside the car is kind of pointless anyways because glass blocks UV rays.
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I get what you are saying

Paint and vinyl are two different things and react differently

The experiment I spoke about was actually a hot tub cover

I should have been more specific

My bad

The point I wanted to make is that there are formulas of very thin liquid products that get wiped on surfaces and the excess buffed off, yet they are able to leave behind an effective amount of UV protection

At least to my eye and in my experience

I know that 303 wiped on a “soft” surface and OWC wiped on paint aren’t the same thing

I appreciate the input
 
Rsurfer said:
I don't think its laughable to protect your paint from UV with a wax/sealant/coating. If you left your paint unprotected the clear will probably last 4-5 years before showing sun-burn. If you protected it religiously it could last 20 plus years. This has been my experience in Hawaii where we have the highest UV through out the year in the USA.
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Is there alot of salt in the air? [due to being close to the ocean]?
 
Eldorado2k said:
Is there alot of salt in the air? [due to being close to the ocean]?
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Depends on where you are on the island..if you live on the windward side next to the beach, the answer is yes. Live a few miles inland than the answer is no. If your on the leeward side (think Waikiki Beach) the salt in the air is very mild and the Tradewinds blow whatever salt is in the air out to sea.

Now living close proximity to cliffs where waves are crashing on shore, yes it can get very salty. You will not be able to have anything metal or it will rust and I mean quickly.

Overall, unless you live on the beach, salt is really not a problem like it is up North driving on salt laden roads during the winter.
 
Rsurfer said:
Depends on where you are on the island..if you live on the windward side next to the beach, the answer is yes. Live a few miles inland than the answer is no. If your on the leeward side (think Waikiki Beach) the salt in the air is very mild and the Tradewinds blow whatever salt is in the air out to sea.

Now living close proximity to cliffs where waves are crashing on shore, yes it can get very salty. You will not be able to have anything metal or it will rust and I mean quickly.

Overall, unless you live on the beach, salt is really not a problem like it is up North driving on salt laden roads during the winter.
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Do you think some of that “sunburn” thats visible on vehicles out there may have more to do with salt than the sun?

Just a thought, because of the whole mentality of keeping it clean is sometimes even more important than keeping it protected. If vehicles aren’t washed frequently and there’s salt in the air, maybe that would accelerate the fading of the paint, combined with high UV among other factors.
 
Eldorado2k said:
Do you think some of that “sunburn” thats visible on vehicles out there may have more to do with salt than the sun?

Just a thought, because of the whole mentality of keeping it clean is sometimes even more important than keeping it protected. If vehicles aren’t washed frequently and there’s salt in the air, maybe that would accelerate the fading of the paint, combined with high UV among other factors.
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It could be, Ric. I think UV is the major culprit for sunburn on paint as it is on human skin.
 
AMarkham40 said:
Optimum Car Wax Patent Information (UV Protection testing toward bottom of page):

US6669763B1 - Water based protectant containing a reaction product of two ionic surfactants
- Google Patents

Additional information from Optimum employee regarding it's UV protection

Optimum Car Wax UVA/UVB Blocking Efficiency/Duration
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I am curious if the research study Dr G conducted (to prove OCW blocks UV) included other car waxes or sealants. If his study only compared a non-protected panel to one with OCW, then that doesn't speak to the question do other waxes and sealants provide less UV protection. If the study included panels protected by several other waxes and sealants on the market and the one with OCW was the only one out of all of them not to show damage from UV, then that would be impressive.
 
Rsurfer said:
It could be, Ric. I think UV is the major culprit for sunburn on paint as it is on human skin.
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Something I notice over here that I also see in the desert sunbelt is certain colors seem way more susceptible to sun damage than others

Green, maroon, some silvers, and a few others all seem to fail way before others, all things being equal

From the looks of the cars that fail, some probably weren't kept up as we would while other colors that look just as neglected seem to last much longer

Sun, salt, neglect, or a combination will certainly do a number on stuff here

But I see almost identical results in Phoenix and salt air is obviously not an issue there
 
"I passed this video on to Dr G and his comment was: As he said all our testing was at 300 nm or shorter wavelengths and I think he is wrong since UVA is shorter than UVB not longer as he suggested."
 
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