Who's manufacturing the products we use?

[custmsprty]

The manufacturer formulates it I bet, unless every detailing brand also has a chemist on staff mixing chemicals in a lab for them, LOL!

Not necessarily, they can formulate their own products and take it a contract manufacturer. That's how most of it is done as it is exspensive to set up a manufacturing line. It costs hundreds of thousands if not a million plus to set up just one chemical bottling line even buying used equipment. That's alot more than a chemist. Especailly with aerosols, that's a major deal. Disenfectant cleaners too, as each one has to be registered with the EPA. I'm in these types of places on a regular basis and see all kinds of things manufacutered.

 

[RLucky82]

I used to work at a chemical compounding company. We had chemists on site that would work with companies or we would sell and mix any formula you wanted. We mixed products for half a dozen larger companies but worked with close to 100 at that time. Some companies in direct competetion with each other. Its amazing to think that all some companies do is put thier label on stuff and sell it.

 

[AutowerxDetailing]

I have heard this from multiple sources and I think it is commonly known that they are linked to many other brands.

I think that end users misunderstand the economics going on with their products - the manufacturers are not the ones making the big mark-ups! Unless your brand is large, it is often going to be cheaper to have the products manufactured by a 3rd party. This is the reason why Warner (and many other, actual, manufacturers) now sell direct, inspite of it being in direct competition with their primary customer base.

I'm a rep for a national wholesale distributor for the heavy duty trucking industry and I've never understood why mfg's and other wholesalers do this! They are undercutting the customers they are supposed to be supporting. It makes zero sense.

And yeah, wholesale markup is laughable compared to the markups on the retail side.

 

[beamerstrumpet]

the reply from the 3D mod is now off their boards, but he answered my question about "Made in USA" by saying that their products were made by a company in Califiornia to their specs(as was mentioned ^^^) as well as many other wax products out of Calie. This leads me to beleive Mothers and a few others are made there also. Maybe this is why my thread is now no where to be found, and you can no longer PM him. unless his box is full from being at SEMA, but that does not explain whay my thread was down.

 

[Bunky]

Its amazing to think that all some companies do is put thier label on stuff and sell it.

Companies do what they are best at. Those who have in house chemists and manufacturing still cannot reach all the potential customers. For many products, it is the marketing that makes the difference between a sale or no sale.

For example, one company that claims almost in strained pain they make other company products still cannot take over the market with their own branded and directly sold products.

 

[PiPUK]

Not necessarily, they can formulate their own products and take it a contract manufacturer. That's how most of it is done as it is exspensive to set up a manufacturing line. It costs hundreds of thousands if not a million plus to set up just one chemical bottling line even buying used equipment. That's alot more than a chemist. Especailly with aerosols, that's a major deal. Disenfectant cleaners too, as each one has to be registered with the EPA. I'm in these types of places on a regular basis and see all kinds of things manufacutered.

Detailing is not comparable to I&I. I&I is a low margin, high volume industry. Detailing is a high margin, low volume sector. Detailing brands are just not selling hundreds of tonnes of product (of course there are exceptions, but that is not the norm).

 

[Sommy]

Great thread. This proves/makes me wonder how many products are basically the same. After trying a lot of detailing products I can say from personal experience that many are exactly the same. Palm Beach included. I fell a little dooped.

 

[custmsprty]

Detailing is not comparable to I&I. I&I is a low margin, high volume industry. Detailing is a high margin, low volume sector. Detailing brands are just not selling hundreds of tonnes of product (of course there are exceptions, but that is not the norm).

The Chemical Industry as a whole is a HIGH margin business so your statement is not necessarily true, atleast not in the US market. I can't comment on the market in Ireland.

 

[Nick McKees37]

AGO is not a place to speculate and spread rumors about any given brand that we represent (there are a lot of them!). That's not what this forum is about.

I'm closing this thread.