Why are my 6.5" CCS pads collapsing in the middle?

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They are Orange pads used with a PC. The middle is collapsed and makes the pad look concave. Are they ok to use like this? Am I applying too much pressure?
 
Thanks Rocket. I've also been wringing them out by twisting them pretty hard after washing. Could this also be causing the prob? If so, whats the best way to dry them?
 
TheTick said:
Thanks Rocket. I've also been wringing them out by twisting them pretty hard after washing. Could this also be causing the prob? If so, whats the best way to dry them?
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nah...you can press/wring them out a bit and air dry them and they will be fine in terms of shape.

IMO they are heating up a bit in the middle when you are using them, either from too much pressure and/or the PC is transmitting heat through the backing plate, and it's changing them in some capacity.

i remember when i first started using 4" pads i was building too much heat in them and they literally would disintegrate from the heat, then blow up, flinging around like a wet sock and throwing foam bits from the middle allll over the place like confetti.

just lighten up a bit with your pads from here on out and see if that helps. IMO many times the weight of the PC or equivelent (such as when the machine is vertical) is enough pressure.
 
What size backing plate are you using? It's ok to wring out the pad or use your pc and spin dry them.
 
I wring mine out then lay them on a sweater dryer. This way the pads are not laying directly on something and air can go completely through them.
 
ASPHALT ROCKET said:
I wring mine out then lay them on a sweater dryer. This way the pads are not laying directly on something and air can go completely through them.
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haha...this is what my rack looks like right now from the honda detail this weekend

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Nice, but pretty conservative on the MF's LOL
 
Rsurfer said:
Nice, but pretty conservative on the MF's LOL
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oh...haha...no worries there!

my used MF bin is full : (

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since i'm so anal about washing similar types seperately, and i have so many MF's, i tend to stock pile the dirty ones to make some legitimate wash loads.
 
Mine are doing that too lately. They have been used several times now. When is it time to replace them?
 
thanks for all the replies. I'll ease up on the pressure.
 
builthatch said:
oh...haha...no worries there!

my used MF bin is full : (

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since i'm so anal about washing similar types seperately, and i have so many MF's, i tend to stock pile the dirty ones to make some legitimate wash loads.
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Question about this.....when washing microfibers how do you go about washing them? I've heard people use laundry detergents and vinegar. Also if I'm washing the same type of microfibers can I wash different colors together? or No?
 
Racersky said:
Question about this.....when washing microfibers how do you go about washing them? I've heard people use laundry detergents and vinegar. Also if I'm washing the same type of microfibers can I wash different colors together? or No?
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i use DP MF wash that was on sale here during a buy one, get one sale. the containers i have will last me for a long time as this stuff is SO concentrated you only need a little bit.

to give some background, i have 3 basic types of towels i use regularly-

advance auto MF towels for glass, interior...whatever. these are very durable and DO not lint.

cobra jr and supremes for light duty/ final buffing

a bad batch of cobra indigos that lint pretty badly and are good for compound/polish removal and removing bird crap or related junk with instant detailer

i wash the towels in those groups.

i have probably 20 of the advance towels, so that makes for a nice small load. depending on how dirty they are, and they are the dirtiest by far of any of my towels, i'll use an ounce of the DP MF wash in a small load size of hot/warm water. i'll let them sit for 15 mins, then run them through on a 14 minute cycle, the longest my washer has, on the roughest/fast setting to really agitate the towels. then i run a double rinse. then i hang dry on that rack.

the plush cobras (deluxe jrs and supremes) are nice towels. they don't lint and are pretty similar, so i wash them together. i have about 20 between the two types. i use .5 to an ounce, let them sit as well, and then wash them but with a less aggressive setting. double rinse, hang dry.

the cobra indigos are paint safe, which is the only reason i still have them, but suck because they leave little tiny microscopic MF strands all over whatever they touch, atleast mine do, badly!...all of them. i tried boiling them, all kinds of crazy washing...they still lint. whatever, they are probably defective. i guess i have 10 or so of those which i wash in their own load. i rarely use these, so it takes a long time for me to get to the point where i have to wash 'em.

as far as washing different color towels together, the longer you wait to do that, the less likely that the towels will exhange color if washed together. the bottom line is that if the colors are different, even if they do exchange color, while they may end up being ugly, they will still be different colors. that is if that matters to you (like, if you code your towels by color for different job or something).

personally, my advance towels started out as orange, blue and white. now they are weird orange, blue, and light blue. i don't care.

the gray supremes and lavender deluxe jrs wash together pretty well and don't seem to change each other.

you can machine dry your towels, but i avoid doing that because my wife uses dryer sheets and i don't want anything residual from those sheets in the machine getting on the MF and limiting the effectiveness.

that's how i do it.

i know like you said, there are a ton of other ways, but whatever you do, just follow the basics of no fab softeners, no detergents with these softeners or perfumes, no bleach whatsoever and nothing even close to high heat.
 
It's not too much pressure, I believe it's the CCS pads. The only pad to do that with my udm is the ccs pads. I've polished with just the weight of the machine before and still had them collapse in the middle (5'' ccs pads). That is why I've switched back to good ol flat pads.
I started this thread discussing my problem a while ago
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...g-pad-forum/15798-pad-type-do-you-prefer.html
 
try the 5.5" pads next...they really do work better with the udm/pc's....
 
builthatch said:
i use DP MF wash that was on sale here during a buy one, get one sale. the containers i have will last me for a long time as this stuff is SO concentrated you only need a little bit.

to give some background, i have 3 basic types of towels i use regularly-

advance auto MF towels for glass, interior...whatever. these are very durable and DO not lint.

cobra jr and supremes for light duty/ final buffing

a bad batch of cobra indigos that lint pretty badly and are good for compound/polish removal and removing bird crap or related junk with instant detailer

i wash the towels in those groups.

i have probably 20 of the advance towels, so that makes for a nice small load. depending on how dirty they are, and they are the dirtiest by far of any of my towels, i'll use an ounce of the DP MF wash in a small load size of hot/warm water. i'll let them sit for 15 mins, then run them through on a 14 minute cycle, the longest my washer has, on the roughest/fast setting to really agitate the towels. then i run a double rinse. then i hang dry on that rack.

the plush cobras (deluxe jrs and supremes) are nice towels. they don't lint and are pretty similar, so i wash them together. i have about 20 between the two types. i use .5 to an ounce, let them sit as well, and then wash them but with a less aggressive setting. double rinse, hang dry.

the cobra indigos are paint safe, which is the only reason i still have them, but suck because they leave little tiny microscopic MF strands all over whatever they touch, atleast mine do, badly!...all of them. i tried boiling them, all kinds of crazy washing...they still lint. whatever, they are probably defective. i guess i have 10 or so of those which i wash in their own load. i rarely use these, so it takes a long time for me to get to the point where i have to wash 'em.

as far as washing different color towels together, the longer you wait to do that, the less likely that the towels will exhange color if washed together. the bottom line is that if the colors are different, even if they do exchange color, while they may end up being ugly, they will still be different colors. that is if that matters to you (like, if you code your towels by color for different job or something).

personally, my advance towels started out as orange, blue and white. now they are weird orange, blue, and light blue. i don't care.

the gray supremes and lavender deluxe jrs wash together pretty well and don't seem to change each other.

you can machine dry your towels, but i avoid doing that because my wife uses dryer sheets and i don't want anything residual from those sheets in the machine getting on the MF and limiting the effectiveness.

that's how i do it.

i know like you said, there are a ton of other ways, but whatever you do, just follow the basics of no fab softeners, no detergents with these softeners or perfumes, no bleach whatsoever and nothing even close to high heat.
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Wow.....thank you for the useful information I guess I can't wait when they have the MF detergent on save again but until then I'm gonna wash the different color towels separate for now :cheers:
 
Racersky said:
Wow.....thank you for the useful information I guess I can't wait when they have the MF detergent on save again but until then I'm gonna wash the different color towels separate for now :cheers:
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yeah, the DP type MF specific stuff works great, but i know that a ton of people on here use some mass market clothing detergent that has nothing bad in it, i think maybe Tide Free?
 
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