Why I'm not and never been a fan of waffle weave drying towels

As do I! I got them on sale on CG's Amazon page, paid like $19 for each. For a 36x24 1400gsm towel, that's a steal I thought. One towel I just flop dry to get 80% of the water, the second towel I finish up with and could easily dry a lot more once down. The amount of water they hold is crazy.

And they are soft unlike waffle weave and terry weave.
 
I usually dry with either the dry me a river or GG's towel, but I got a couple free everest 800 towels to try from the rag company and those are really awesome, those I save for non daily drivers or cars that are not getting polished after drying. I would never have bought them to try, but so glad I got them now.

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Why don't you guys who have towels you feel are too big cut them up? You don't need a finished edge. They don't unravel like cotton.

I agree with the posters who say use a blower with a 16x16 towel. One towel per car (Unless you pick up dirt from the edges or dirty water blown out from crevices). I thought I had made a mistake when I first got my MasterBlaster Sidekick and tried to use it alone. Once I put it with a towel and learned to use air to glide the towel, BAM! The only thing I'm thinking about changing is getting the 8hp Masterblaster to go even quicker.
 
I've never had a scratching issue with the PFM. I love those towels. When used with the "matador" method of slowly dragging across horizontal panels with only the weight of the towel they really do dry with one pass. The other towels I use that compare to them well are the Gyeon silk dryers. With a good LSP they absolutely glide across the surface and dry with a single pass as well. The smaller size works well on vertical panels and I'm using them more than the 16x16 PFM's for that. I highly recommend both brands.
 
I employ a mix of towels. So far it's majority CG Gray matter waffle weaves, a gray CG plush drying towel, and I just recently purchased two TRC Pluffles. I absolutely love the pluffles, especially for rinseless. The gray matters do their job though. I wash them the same way I wash all my microfibers, but I separate my drying towels from the others.
 
Drying cars is the worst part for me, I hate to do it and I feel like I’m always inducing more swirls

I bought some of the PFM towels, and they do work good. I used it with Wolfgang QD, and it does work. But geese I think I went through a half bottle of the QD. It’s not a very “cost effective” way to wash the car.

Do you guys get the PFM damp then dry the car? Or just use them dry?
 
I must have very hard paint on my 06 Chrysler 300C SRT8. For the last 2 years all I have used are cotton towels without inducing swirls or scratches.

I did just order 4 GG PFM 16x16 towels and really liked them. For my first use I blew the car dry in sections, i.e., blew off the roof, hood, and trunk lid and then dried, blew off the side and dried, and repeated on the other side. Blowing then wiping, though, takes a lot of time relative to my usual approach. But the GG towels worked very well and used only 3 to do the whole car.

Like Scalla above, I, too, am wondering if you guys dampen the GG PFMs or use them dry. I noticed with mine that once the towel got good and wet it streaked like mad and I used a second towel to follow-up.
 
Drying cars is the worst part for me, I hate to do it and I feel like I’m always inducing more swirls

I bought some of the PFM towels, and they do work good. I used it with Wolfgang QD, and it does work. But geese I think I went through a half bottle of the QD. It’s not a very “cost effective” way to wash the car.

Do you guys get the PFM damp then dry the car? Or just use them dry?

I use some QD but not a lot. It's also Wolfgang but made from Uber rinse less so it's quite cheap. I don't feel like the PFM is hard to wipe the car dry with. What kind of LSP you have on your paint?
 
I love the PFM towels. They are my favorite among a large group that I have. I can completely dry my entire car with a 16x16.
 
I love the PFM towels. They are my favorite among a large group that I have. I can completely dry my entire car with a 16x16.

It took me 3 to dry my 300C SRT8...I wonder if I'm doing it wrong? I even blew it dry with my shop-vac first.
 
I must have very hard paint on my 06 Chrysler 300C SRT8. For the last 2 years all I have used are cotton towels without inducing swirls or scratches.

It took me 3 to dry my 300C SRT8...I wonder if I'm doing it wrong? I even blew it dry with my shop-vac first.

Yea, you must have some extremely hard paint if you can dry with cotton towels + blow with a Shop Vac and not induce swirls. Consider yourself fortunate. Lol.
 
I must have very hard paint on my 06 Chrysler 300C SRT8. For the last 2 years all I have used are cotton towels without inducing swirls or scratches.

I did just order 4 GG PFM 16x16 towels and really liked them. For my first use I blew the car dry in sections, i.e., blew off the roof, hood, and trunk lid and then dried, blew off the side and dried, and repeated on the other side. Blowing then wiping, though, takes a lot of time relative to my usual approach. But the GG towels worked very well and used only 3 to do the whole car.

Like Scalla above, I, too, am wondering if you guys dampen the GG PFMs or use them dry. I noticed with mine that once the towel got good and wet it streaked like mad and I used a second towel to follow-up.

What color is the paint, my father has a beige f150 with metallic flake. You could dry it with steel wool and you wouldn't see the swirls. Now my plain black kia with no flake, I can get swirls just thinking about drying it with cotton.
 
If you dry the windows first ( I would knock enough of the water off first with a blower), you will have a damp towel (not a wet one) - which is probably what you want.

If you then dry as you blow ( You need the right type of blower for this. A leaf blower won't work). As opposed to dry after you blow. You can keep your drying towel damp, not wet. You do need to blow off at least 60-80 percent of the water before blowing/drying to make this system work. But, once you get good at it, it works really well.
 
If you dry the windows first ( I would knock enough of the water off first with a blower), you will have a damp towel (not a wet one) - which is probably what you want.

If you then dry as you blow ( You need the right type of blower for this. A leaf blower won't work). As opposed to dry after you blow. You can keep your drying towel damp, not wet. You do need to blow off at least 60-80 percent of the water before blowing/drying to make this system work. But, once you get good at it, it works really well.

I sheet the water then dry with a waffle weave. Quick and easy, I have a blower but I never really use it.
 
I sheet the water then dry with a waffle weave. Quick and easy, I have a blower but I never really use it.

What blower do you have?
So you never blow dry your door handles, grill, around the windows, gas cap, side mirrors, etc?
 
Drying cars is the worst part for me, I hate to do it and I feel like I’m always inducing more swirls

I bought some of the PFM towels, and they do work good. I used it with Wolfgang QD, and it does work. But geese I think I went through a half bottle of the QD. It’s not a very “cost effective” way to wash the car.

Do you guys get the PFM damp then dry the car? Or just use them dry?

Like others have posted, rinseless wash @ detail strength is the way to go if you want to be cost effective. Wolfgang Uber, Griot's rinseless w/ wax, and Meg's D115 are three good ones for this that will only cost you $1.50 - 13.00 per gallon @ manufacturer recommended dilution.

A half bottle (8 - 12 ounces) is a lot for one car. You might want to spray the towel instead of the panel.
 
I sheet the water then dry with a waffle weave. Quick and easy, I have a blower but I never really use it.

There's many ways to do it. We've given the guy some options to try so he can figure out what he likes.
 
Not a fan of my guzzlers. I think they don’t guzzle much imo and they feel like they are tough on the paint. Whether they are or not I’m not sure. I use the same microfiber towels I use for most everything to dry with. They don’t hold a ton of water so I ordered some pfm’s but haven’t received them yet. We will see


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What blower do you have?
So you never blow dry your door handles, grill, around the windows, gas cap, side mirrors, etc?

Exactly. If I don’t use a blower for that, as soon as I’m done and move the car it’s like waterfalls everywhere. The GTI hides a lot of water and air blowing the cracks is a must.
 
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