Why is it not good..

klumzypinoy said:
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You're right.
I need to clay mine now and polish too. I haven't done it in over a year.
 
Just my thoughts on this...

I don't think it's necessarily bad to clay often, but I also don't think it's necessary to do so in most cases.

I don't hesitate to use an ultra fine clay (I use Sonus green) to spot-clay areas that need it after a wash. Usually behind the wheels is where I notice areas most in need. It's very gentle and with a light touch and proper lubrication it may noy even remove the LSP. Even so, I probably only find myself needing to do this once or twice a month. And usually re-wax the area (maybe use some AW) clayed just to be safe.

As for a full claying, at least on my own cars, I don't feel the need to do one for at least 6 months after the previous. And even then I can usually get away with an ultra fine clay. It's only on customer cars where I've had to use something stronger (Sonus gray) and that can leave behind a bit of marring. Not a big issue as a polishing followed. But here's a case where I would suggest it's not a good idea to clay frequently - when using a more aggressive clay.

Bottom line, I just don't see a need to do a full claying more than twice a year. But as for spot-claying with an ultra fine, I will do it anytime it's necessary.
 
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I haven't full clayed my car, didn't have the time, I just did the very troubled areas, hood, roof, trunk, fenders. I need to do my bumpers and my doors and rear quarter panels.

The reason I wanted to clarify if claying too often is bad is because my friend told me that he read that claying too often is bad (sorry for the long sentence). I would understand that claying with an aggresive grade too often is bad (unless you want some micro marring :)), but I know he's using Mother's OTC clay.
 
Sevenrd said:
Just my thoughts on this...

I don't think it's necessarily bad to clay often, but I also don't think it's necessary to do so in most cases.

I don't hesitate to use an ultra fine clay (I use Sonus green) to spot-clay areas that need it after a wash. Usually behind the wheels is where I notice areas most in need. It's very gentle and with a light touch and proper lubrication it may noy even remove the LSP. Even so, I probably only find myself needing to do this once or twice a month. And usually re-wax the area (maybe use some AW) clayed just to be safe.

As for a full claying, at least on my own cars, I don't feel the need to do one for at least 6 months after the previous. And even then I can usually get away with an ultra fine clay. It's only on customer cars where I've had to use something stronger (Sonus gray) and that can leave behind a bit of marring. Not a big issue as a polishing followed. But here's a case where I would suggest it's not a good idea to clay frequently - when using a more aggressive clay.

Bottom line, I just don't see a need to do a full claying more than twice a year. But as for spot-claying with an ultra fine, I will do it anytime it's necessary.
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Wow that sound good to me! I can see that.
Have you tried, Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay?
Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay is designed for frequent use. Whereas our original clay is recommended to use once or twice a year, this ultra fine grade of elastic detailing clay can be used as often as necessary to maintain a slick, reflective finish. Use it once a month or as needed for spot-cleaning – Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay is gentle yet effective on all types of paint!

Although Ultra Poly Clay is a very fine grade of clay, it is effective at removing contamination build-up (6 -12 months without claying). Ultra Poly Clay retains all the characteristics of our original Poly Clay. The difference lies in the Ultra Poly Clay’s softer, finer consistency that is gentler on the vehicle.

Plus, Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay has superior elasticity as compared to heavier grades of clay. The clay can be reshaped and stretched repeatedly without losing its flexibility. Properly stored in its plastic case, Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay will retain its elastic nature and workability.

Use Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay as often as necessary to maintain a silky, slick finish on your vehicle.
I'm thinking about getting this.
 
I haven't tried that clay, sparkie. It certainly sounds like it's right along the lines of Sonus green though.
 
I should definitely buy me some green clay in the future, and tell my friend about it probably, but he's not so much into it as much as me.
 
just remeber that claying is an abrassive process...its an abrassive suspended in a poly/elastic/"whatever it may be" resin...its not like its gum that is sticky and is pulling out the contamination through bonding...it is gently scraping away at the surface of your paint...but at a microscopic level..so gentle clays are fine to use quite often...but harsher clays can induce a lot of marring and do technically remove some clearcoat or ss paint....if you want to test that clay is abrassive...rub it dry against a black car or dark colored car and see what kind of micromarring or hazing it leaves :) its not bad to claybar your car often with a mild clay...its just with the harsher clays you will be following up with polishing...and you can only polish a car so many times...if you use a harsh clay to often you will be polishing very often which can eventually thin the paint to an unsafe level for polishing...
 
sparkie said:
Wow that sound good to me! I can see that.
Have you tried, Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay?
Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay is designed for frequent use. Whereas our original clay is recommended to use once or twice a year, this ultra fine grade of elastic detailing clay can be used as often as necessary to maintain a slick, reflective finish. Use it once a month or as needed for spot-cleaning – Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay is gentle yet effective on all types of paint!

Although Ultra Poly Clay is a very fine grade of clay, it is effective at removing contamination build-up (6 -12 months without claying). Ultra Poly Clay retains all the characteristics of our original Poly Clay. The difference lies in the Ultra Poly Clay’s softer, finer consistency that is gentler on the vehicle.

Plus, Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay has superior elasticity as compared to heavier grades of clay. The clay can be reshaped and stretched repeatedly without losing its flexibility. Properly stored in its plastic case, Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay will retain its elastic nature and workability.

Use Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay as often as necessary to maintain a silky, slick finish on your vehicle.
I'm thinking about getting this.
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I don't think that is is very nessesary to clay more often then every couple of months. And in that case it's a good idea to use Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay.
Just clay hood, front fenders, roof, and trunk lid every couple of months, and clay the whole vehicle 1-2 times a year.
 
Here is what the Clay Magic stuff did to my black car last fall. I thought maybe it was because I clayed during washing, but then I took another piece of the same clay (cut it in thirds) a couple weeks ago and used the lube and had the same thing happen. Not sure if it's normal or if it's a bad piece of clay. That was the first time I clayed this car, but I didn't have problems with it on other darker cars. But that shows how abrassive it can be. It wasn't easy to polish out either.

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hmm is the white meguiars smooth surface clay considered an abrasive clay? because i use it as often as needed. its mostly just the hood and front bumper that need the claying once every few months if not more often.
 
k20z3kid said:
hmm is the white meguiars smooth surface clay considered an abrasive clay? because i use it as often as needed. its mostly just the hood and front bumper that need the claying once every few months if not more often.
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its a very mild clay...you could easily use it once a month and be prefectly safe...
 
k20z3kid said:
hmm is the white meguiars smooth surface clay considered an abrasive clay? because i use it as often as needed. its mostly just the hood and front bumper that need the claying once every few months if not more often.
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I think it was the one I used last weekend and it's not an abrasive clay, I found it to be mild and have a small bite. Well that's just what I have experianced with it. That's why I really want to try the Meguiars profesional clay, sopposed to have some good bite to it.
 
Depending of the grade of clay is how often to clay a car....the medium grade stuff I would use once a year as it is abrasive..I use this before a polish because I know I am doing paint corrections...now a mild clay like the Erazer..Pinnicle Ultra you could do quarterly and have no problems..they are very fine and do not mar if lubed correctly....even the Clay magik is a mild clay...the red and thier purple are stronger...some washes make a good lube and some do not...they react with the clay and break it down...I use a dedicated lube or a high silicone QD like FK425 as a lube and get no maring useing a fine clay...I never got results like the one shown in the above post using Clay Magic clay....

Most of the consumer clays sold in stores are mild..I do not think they would sell you something that will tear your paint up...they would get calls all day...used properly with a slick lube you will be fine

Al
 
The Ultra Poly clay is a great clay for maintained cars. It's very gentle and it don't have to re wax or re seal afterwards. :)
 
It is what I use too.
When I do the other cars, I use the Clay Magic instead of the Pinnacle.
 
Grimm said:
Here is what the Clay Magic stuff did to my black car last fall. I thought maybe it was because I clayed during washing, but then I took another piece of the same clay (cut it in thirds) a couple weeks ago and used the lube and had the same thing happen. Not sure if it's normal or if it's a bad piece of clay. That was the first time I clayed this car, but I didn't have problems with it on other darker cars. But that shows how abrassive it can be. It wasn't easy to polish out either.

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more lubeeeeeeeeee;)
 
Yeah that is odd, I use clay magic blue clay all the time, and it is for the most part scratch free.
 
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