Why no Swissvax?

[TundraPower]

I've always wanted to ask this.

Mike,

Why doesn't AG carry Swissvax products?

 

[FUNX650]

I've always wanted to ask this.

Mike,

Why doesn't AG carry Swissvax products?

Not Mike (or his spokesperson)...But I wonder...
Must a re-seller solicit Swissvax; or, is this a diametric-process?


:hijacked:
To be a contrariant:
Why doesn't AG carry any products, that are considered by many, to be securely affixed
as the antipodean of: The Detailing Products' Spectrum? (Ex: The Turtle, NuFinish, etc.)



Bob

 

[Pureshine]

I've used Swissvax wax for years but switched to a cheaper wax that works as good or better.

 

[FUNX650]

I've used Swissvax wax for years but switched to a cheaper wax that works as good or better.

-Although it appears (to me) that neither one of us, so far, has actually provided
an appropiate answer to the OP's question to Mike...

Would you be so kind to provide the information regarding which wax you have now switched to that's:
-Not only cheaper (pricewise...I presume?)...
-But works as good or better than any Swissvax wax(es)?

Thanks.



Bob

 

[swanicyouth]

My guess is profit margin is not high enough. This would also be my guess why no Zymol. That and the fact I think only the waxes would sell (albeit slowly). I just can't see many AGians spending $100 for 16oz of car wash, or $60 for 8oz of wheel cleaner concentrate.

Not to mention, these LSPs would compete for sales with Fuzion and Souveran - which are likely high profit items because they are house brands. I just don't think these super high priced car care items sell much volume, when there are less expensive alternatives that are known to work well.

 

[Andr3wilson]

Honestly guys this comes down to the US distributors. Its got nothing to do with price and profit margins on AG.

I tried to get rights to sell SV in Canada, but my buddy actually beat me to it and bought up the Exclusive Distribution rights a while ago. I cant do anything.

I don't exactly know all of the ins and the outs of SV USA, but I can tell you right now that they do not see PBMG as a profitable option. As the distributor for SV has their own Online site, SV doesn't need to be on AG and their own site. Its competition with themselves.

 

[TrKent]

Too bad Gtechniq discontinued C3 Smart Carnauba. Best wax I have ever used. I've tried some Zymol and the durability just wasn't there, perhaps I had bad application. While most of my work is now just with coatings, I am looking to testing a few waxes to have on hand.

I have heard that Swissvax waxes are hard to work with. While some may say that hard-to-use waxes are for professionals only... a true professional would realize that hard to use products run the risk of instilling more defects into the paint, no matter how careful you are.

 

[Andr3wilson]

I have heard that Swissvax waxes are hard to work with. While some may say that hard-to-use waxes are for professionals only... a true professional would realize that hard to use products run the risk of instilling more defects into the paint, no matter how careful you are.

TBH its the exact opposite. Unless you are trying to do some fancy hand massage (which is a huge waste of product) they are honestly the easiest and a dream to work with. I apply it to every surface except glass. Zero staining on trim pieces

 

[TrKent]

TBH its the exact opposite. Unless you are trying to do some fancy hand massage (which is a huge waste of product) they are honestly the easiest and a dream to work with. I apply it to every surface except glass. Zero staining on trim pieces

Thank you for the info, perhaps I should get some to try first hand

 

[TimmyG]

TBH its the exact opposite. Unless you are trying to do some fancy hand massage (which is a huge waste of product) they are honestly the easiest and a dream to work with. I apply it to every surface except glass. Zero staining on trim pieces

Agreed.

Concourso spreads like smooth butter and removes even easier. I have a 2 oz sample pot of crystal rock that I've been meaning to try, but will probably hold off until spring/summer. I have no reason to believe it'll be anything but a pleasure to apply and remove.

 

[psnt1ol]

I am in retail management for all of my life and I think I could add a bit of value to this conversation. I am not certain that the problem is not with AG but the vendor itself.

The mentality of most High-end vendors are different. There are many factors they must weight out prior to signing on with a distributor. It is not always about the money. Here are a few.

1. Image-They spend a tremendous of amount of resources to build their brand and they don't want to run the risk of alienating their core customers by aligning themselves with a company that appeal to the masses. In their minds, this would cheapen their brand.

2. Exclusivity - The High-end vendors recognized the fact that their products are not for everyone but only for a small segment. This particular segment will pay for exclusivity. They certainly don't want to saturate the market.

3. Production capabilities - To stay afloat in the current competitive market, most successful companies are fairly max-out in efficiency. To expand production will require a large capitol investment. The return from such investment generally will not be realize for many years to come. For some, this risk is hard to take.

I dealt with many High-end vendors in the past and it seemed to be a habit for them (in a round-about way) to remind me "How much of a privilege it is for us to have their products in our store" at the conclusion of every meeting. LOL.

I am not certain if Swissvax wants to do business with AG. I doubt they do. But then....Never say never.

 

[Wheelzntoys]

Amazon sells it.

 

[psnt1ol]

Amazon is a complete different animal. It's hard to compare any company to Amazon. They sell $1.50 sticker decals to $165,000 watches. Their business model is dramatically different.

 

[Andr3wilson]

Amazon sells it.

* Swissvax sells it on Amazon. Look at the seller

 

[psnt1ol]

If you look at the units on hand on some of the high ticketed items on Amazon, you would note it will say " Only 1 left in stock" but you do get free shipping. LOL.

 

[ScottB]

My guess is profit margin is not high enough. This would also be my guess why no Zymol. That and the fact I think only the waxes would sell (albeit slowly). I just can't see many AGians spending $100 for 16oz of car wash, or $60 for 8oz of wheel cleaner concentrate.

Not to mention, these LSPs would compete for sales with Fuzion and Souveran - which are likely high profit items because they are house brands. I just don't think these super high priced car care items sell much volume, when there are less expensive alternatives that are known to work well.

Before Autogeek, Bob (Max) owned several stores locally that specialized in car care products. Zymol was available and from what I remember was not a quick and big seller.

I know from speaking with him there are many items that go into offering a product or line. One is can they provide the levels needed initially and thru restock. Other reasons can certainly include territorial rights. I suspect you also want to have your stock turnover quickly so your not stuck with alot of pricey inventory that doesnt move and eventually needs to be sold at a loss. I am sure other reasons exist also ...

 

[Audi X2]

* Swissvax sells it on Amazon. Look at the seller

It is interesting that Amazon is stocking such a large quantity of this brand in their own inventory.
Detailers Domain is no longer a dealer, so I suspect this is an easy way to maintain distribution exposure to the brand.

 

[swanicyouth]

Before Autogeek, Bob (Max) owned several stores locally that specialized in car care products. Zymol was available and from what I remember was not a quick and big seller.

I know from speaking with him there are many items that go into offering a product or line. One is can they provide the levels needed initially and thru restock. Other reasons can certainly include territorial rights. I suspect you also want to have your stock turnover quickly so your not stuck with alot of pricey inventory that doesnt move and eventually needs to be sold at a loss. I am sure other reasons exist also ...

Also, I think the issue with stocking these products is the biggest seller would be the wax... But which one? They offer so many, and they are costly.

 

[Qusai]

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Would you be so kind to provide the information regarding which wax you have now switched to that's:
-Not only cheaper (pricewise...I presume?)...
-But works as good or better than any Swissvax wax(es)?

Thanks.



Bob

Where'd he go? Lol

 

[FUNX650]

the problem is not with AG but the vendor itself.

^^^In the case of Swissvax...:iagree:^^^

Must a re-seller solicit Swissvax; or, is this a diametric-process?

2. Exclusivity - The High-end vendors recognized the fact that their products are not for everyone but only for a small segment. This particular segment will pay for exclusivity. They certainly don't want to saturate the market.

^^^Excellent point!!^^^ rops:

I am not certain if Swissvax wants to do business with AG. I doubt they do. But then....Never say never.

^^^That's for sure!!^^^

^^^Because^^^:

Instead of possibly seeing something like the following being posted:

Send me a PM with what you are interested in.

It was not too long ago...
There was a thread-starter, wherein the staff at AGO was asking the forum members what new/different "Brands"
(and their product line-ups) they'd like to see AGO carry...
Some product-lines, that were suggested, are actually now being sold at AGO.:xyxthumbs:

Before Autogeek, Bob (Max) owned several stores locally that specialized in car care products.

Recognize anyone in this early AG/PBMA-store(s) photo??

Zymol was available and from what I remember was not a quick and big seller.

Zymol must have met the below product's demise!!

We used to sell Rubbish Boys wax but they did not move so we discontinued them.

reasons can certainly include territorial rights.

^^^Even if AGO never has Swissvax as one of their offerings^^^...

It's not that much more, distance-wise, to have Swissvax's USA distributor/reseller
ship me some of their products...If I would so desire to purchase any, that is.




Bob