Will a sealant "seal" in a polish or glaze?

So are you all saying that because you can get new swirls, it means the top coat of wax did not seal in the undercoat of sealant? I would think the appearance of new swirls just means that you got new swirls. Or, if they're not new swirls, but the reappearance of the same, old swirls, couldn't it just be that both of the top products have worn away in the areas that aren't totally flat, because the waxes and sealants just don't adhere as well to the imperfections? It just seems logical to me that whatever you put on last is on top of whatever you put on first, unless come kind of chemical reaction is happening between them...
 
ThirdgenTa said:
Actually... I applied poorboys black hole, then Menzerna Power Lock. The next day I applied collinite 845. Looked great for about a week and then you could see all the swirls back in. I am not knocking poorboys cause it looked great, but just proved this theory isn't true.
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I wasn't the one saying that a glaze can last for 5 months if it's "under" 845...

but there you go... glaze was "locked in" by powerlock and 845 for 1 week, or until the car probably got washed...
 
The real answer is sort of and it depends on the glaze and sealant. You need to use a glaze and sealant that is compatable.

Glazes add gloss, feed the paint and help fill swirls to a certain extent. If you expect the glaze to hide a crappy paint preparation, probably not. I used a glaze with carnaubq wax to amp the gloss and finish. It worked well for weeks on end.

I used a glaze under a compatable sealant and under a hybrid wax to amp the gloss. Worked fine at least for several months. If the paint is perfectly prepared, I'm not sure if the glaze is necessary.
 
embolism said:
I wasn't the one saying that a glaze can last for 5 months if it's "under" 845...

but there you go... glaze was "locked in" by powerlock and 845 for 1 week, or until the car probably got washed...
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Sorry... I was actually agreeing with you.:xyxthumbs:
 
Glazes don't get "locked in". A glaze will last only until the first wash or heavy rain. They are great for making a car look near perfect for a show, but otherwise they aren't really good for anything since they don't last that long.
 
What if the glaze is placed on last, over a wax? So, for that week, minus any rain, it could serve its purpose until the next application a week later or whenever wanted. Also, just curious if application of a glaze over a sealant and wax affects either one, by removing them?

Howard
 
YankeeFan said:
What if the glaze is placed on last, over a wax? So, for that week, minus any rain, it could serve its purpose until the next application a week later or whenever wanted. Also, just curious if application of a glaze over a sealant and wax affects either one, by removing them?

Howard
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99.9% of glazes are either chemical or very mild abrasive cleaners. So applying them on top of anything will in most case's strip whatever is underneath.

There's only one glaze that I know of that does not have any mild cleaners in it. Thats the wet glaze 2.0 product.
 
mg6045 said:
99.9% of glazes are either chemical or very mild abrasive cleaners. So applying them on top of anything will in most case's strip whatever is underneath.

There's only one glaze that I know of that does not have any mild cleaners in it. Thats the wet glaze 2.0 product.
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Interesting that you said this.

I slapped some Wet Glaze 2.0 on top of my FK1000p'ed daily drivers hood a few weeks ago. It looked amazing, clearly glowed compared to the rest of the car.

However when I washed it this weekend, the hood did not bead nearly as well as the rest of the car. I put on another coat of FK1000p on the hood to be sure I was protecting it.

I'm wondering if the glaze either removed the FK1000p, or if it blended with it and then compromised the durability of the FK1000p.
 
I believe that using the term "glaze" as though it had a fixed definition that was adhered to by all manufacturers is a mistake. It's important to read the directions and properties of each product. Some have polymers and are designed to be used prior to sealants and will last as long as the sealant does. Others are designed to give a temporary boost in shine. I think we need to talk about specific products rather then "glazes".
 
whatever you call it, there is nothing that will fill swirls for any appreciable length of time, nomatter what you top it with.
 
Help me, all this glaze talk and I'm glazing over...(sorry couldn't help it)

I've used both PB Black Hole and Wet Glaze 2.0 and like both products.
Both have "some" filling abilities but IMHO the main use is to add gloss.
IMHO they are not for "disguising" swirls so you do not need to polish.

One exception: you have done so much paint correction that when you
just look at your hood and softly whisper "buffer" the last few remaining
microns of "polished-to-death" clear coat go flying off your hood. (GRIN)

My understanding is that "some" glazes are made to work only with wax.
Other glazes are formulated to work under/over both sealants or wax.
 
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