Will my current tire cleaning regiment work for a clearcoat (Tuf Shine)?

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Hi all...

My current tire cleaning regiment is as follows:
1. Clean tires with diluted solution of Simple Green
2. Dry
3. Use Mother's Back to Black Trim restorer to give the tires a "brand new" look
4. Dry
4. Coat with Wolfgang Exterior Trim Sealant

Question is that if I replace step 4 with Tuf Shine or a similar product, will it adhere after the Mother's? I'm working with what I have, on a budget, and would rather not have to purchase some recommended products on this forum specific to cleaning the rubber.

Thanks in advance...

Eric
 
I would suspect you would have bonding issues with using that mothers product. I am not sure how good simple green does at cleaning tires but here is my recommendation as I have learned from applying tire coatings.

Clean the tires weekly and do not put any dressing on them for a few weeks. It will allow the tire dressing to leach out from what has been absorbed by the tire. After a few weeks give them a cleaning and then apply the tire coating.
 
I've never used the Mother's TRIM restorer on tire before. It does a great job on trim getting the dead oxidized plastic off. Is it something special on tires too?
 
Before trying it, I read the directions, and it did say safe to use on tires.

I originally tried it on my daughter's Jeep, which had severe browning, and while cleaning it (over 5 times) with step 1, the only thing I could get was a uniform brown (they weren't old, Goodyears, and never had the issue with other brands).

I decided to try the Mother's, and the tires restored to what I considered "brand new out of the mold" look (which is what I would want to ultimately achieve, yet have yet to find something which lasts longer than my current regiment).

303 Protectant was used on prior cleaning steps, but the Wolfgang lasts longer, as of now.

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The Guz said:
I would suspect you would have bonding issues with using that mothers product. I am not sure how good simple green does at cleaning tires but here is my recommendation as I have learned from applying tire coatings.

Clean the tires weekly and do not put any dressing on them for a few weeks. It will allow the tire dressing to leach out from what has been absorbed by the tire. After a few weeks give them a cleaning and then apply the tire coating.
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Thanks for the tip...Can definitely try that.
 
ejaf said:
My current tire cleaning regiment is as follows:
1. Clean tires
2. Dry
3. Use Mother's Back to Black Trim restorer
4. Dry
4. Coat with Wolfgang Exterior Trim Sealant

Question is that
If I replace step 4 with Tuf Shine
or a similar product, will it adhere
after the Mother's?

Eric
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Bob
 
It's really quite important for TuffShine to have a very clean surface to bond to, otherwise it'll start appearing brown after a bit. The initial scrubbing of a tire can be quite arduous if you've been slathering on tire dressings for a while (especially silicone-based products); the TuffShine brush and cleaner does a great job but sometimes you have to go thru 3 or 4 'cycles' to get to a state that is ready for application.

The first time I used TuffShine it was on some Michelin's that had Zaino Tire Dressing applied for the previous year or two; it took nearly all day to get them clean enough for application. Once clean and the TuffShine coating applied it's all gravy...just a quick wipe down with soapy water and good to go. Once a year I'll give 'em a cycle or 2 scrubbing with the TuffShine cleaner and reapply a coat or two and that pretty much holds me for 6-8 months depending on vehicle usage.

Kinda a pain initially but well worth it once ya got things right.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
It's really quite important for TuffShine to have a very clean surface to bond to, otherwise it'll start appearing brown after a bit. The initial scrubbing of a tire can be quite arduous if you've been slathering on tire dressings for a while (especially silicone-based products); the TuffShine brush and cleaner does a great job but sometimes you have to go thru 3 or 4 'cycles' to get to a state that is ready for application.

The first time I used TuffShine it was on some Michelin's that had Zaino Tire Dressing applied for the previous year or two; it took nearly all day to get them clean enough for application. Once clean and the TuffShine coating applied it's all gravy...just a quick wipe down with soapy water and good to go. Once a year I'll give 'em a cycle or 2 scrubbing with the TuffShine cleaner and reapply a coat or two and that pretty much holds me for 6-8 months depending on vehicle usage.

Kinda a pain initially but well worth it once ya got things right.
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Thanks...I guess the cycles that I have to go through will be that once the tire cleaning product (whatever it is) is no longer bringing up any dirt (or leftover dressings), I am good to go with the Tuf Shine.

Sounds as if better off not using the Mother's (although not technically a dressing, it will act as one). Correct?
 
Sorry, I thought you were talking about the Mother's Heavy Duty Trim cleaner to clean the tires and not the Trim Restorer dressing. You would not want that under the Tuff-Shine coating.
 
DBAILEY said:
Sorry, I thought you were talking about the Mother's Heavy Duty Trim cleaner to clean the tires and not the Trim Restorer dressing. You would not want that under the Tuff-Shine coating.
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It is the trim cleaner...its main ingredient (just looked up the MSDS) is n-butyl acetate.

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I'd stick with the TuffSHine cleaner; scrub/cycle until ya get a nice white foam, then good to go with the coating.
 
Scrub,scrub,scrub those tires!
I have been trying 2 months to get Tuffshine to stick to my off road tires.
About 90% is sticking so I need to scrub some more.
My daughters tires took the coating first time.
 
Instead of using the Mothers Heavy Duty Trim Cleaner to clean the tires use Mothers Back to Black Tire Renew. It’s very similar to the other ‘high quality’ tire cleaners such as McKee’s Tire & Rubber Rejuvenator and therefore I’d assume it’s also very similar to the Tuff Shine tire cleaner. The good thing is that it can be purchased in a smaller bottle that’s easier on the wallet. It works well.
 
Simple Green is not a very effective tire cleaner. Megs D143, Adams Tire & Rubber Cleaner and Mother's Back to Black Tire Renew are far superior cleaners. You have to make sure that the tires are squeaky clean if you want the tire coating to last.
 
UncleDavy said:
Simple Green is not a very effective tire cleaner. Megs D143, Adams Tire & Rubber Cleaner and Mother's Back to Black Tire Renew are far superior cleaners. You have to make sure that the tires are squeaky clean if you want the tire coating to last.
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Interesting...thanks for that fact. Wondering what actually makes these products so much better cleaning tire rubber than off the shelf cleaners. I will look into this more.

Eric
 
Eldorado2k said:
Instead of using the Mothers Heavy Duty Trim Cleaner to clean the tires use Mothers Back to Black Tire Renew. It’s very similar to the other ‘high quality’ tire cleaners such as McKee’s Tire & Rubber Rejuvenator and therefore I’d assume it’s also very similar to the Tuff Shine tire cleaner. The good thing is that it can be purchased in a smaller bottle that’s easier on the wallet. It works well.
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If you compared them directly, would you say the M37 version has an edge at all?

I mostly just use degreasers or d143 to clean my tires/wheels. It seems to do a good job but there’s always just a weird tint of brown (no pictures, I’m sure you know what I mean) that never cleans off. It’s not really a big deal, the dressing covers it up, but I’ve been interested in a cleaner that’s this style of tire cleaner for a little while now. Maybe it’s because I do a lot of rinseless washing.

Even though I don’t consider my tire dirty after several rounds of cleaning, I can’t help but want it to just look black after cleaning.

If you grab both during a 20% off/free shipping sale.. the price per ounce isn’t too different between mothers and m37 at .25 vs .31 per ounce (if you buy a gallon of m37.) a 16 ounce bottles of m37 is still nearly a dollar an ounce, coming in at .85 per.

Have you tried multiple passes with the mothers product and seen noticeably different levels of cleanliness? Or tried using a scrub brush with it?

In either case.. I’ll probably grab a bottle of this to try out, it’s hard to say no at 7 bucks even when it’s not on sale. Especially compared to m37 at 17 bucks for 16 ounces, lol

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Finick said:
If you compared them directly, would you say the M37 version has an edge at all?

I mostly just use degreasers or d143 to clean my tires/wheels. It seems to do a good job but there’s always just a weird tint of brown (no pictures, I’m sure you know what I mean) that never cleans off. It’s not really a big deal, the dressing covers it up, but I’ve been interested in a cleaner that’s this style of tire cleaner for a little while now. Maybe it’s because I do a lot of rinseless washing.

Even though I don’t consider my tire dirty after several rounds of cleaning, I can’t help but want it to just look black after cleaning.

If you grab both during a 20% off/free shipping sale.. the price per ounce isn’t too different between mothers and m37 at .25 vs .31 per ounce (if you buy a gallon of m37.) a 16 ounce bottles of m37 is still nearly a dollar an ounce, coming in at .85 per.

Have you tried multiple passes with the mothers product and seen noticeably different levels of cleanliness? Or tried using a scrub brush with it?

In either case.. I’ll probably grab a bottle of this to try out, it’s hard to say no at 7 bucks even when it’s not on sale. Especially compared to m37 at 17 bucks for 16 ounces, lol

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Mothers is good but Tuf Shine is much stronger and cleans better.

D143 is pretty effective as is Mckee’s.
 
ejaf said:
Interesting...thanks for that fact. Wondering what actually makes these products so much better cleaning tire rubber than off the shelf cleaners. I will look into this more.

Eric
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The Mother's Back to Back Tire Renew is an over the counter product. I couldn't find the MSDS on it but I believe that it is an acidic cleaner. It is a spray on wipe off product that takes the brown crap off in one swipe. You should probably use caution when you have coated rims.
 
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