Work done at body shop, swirl marks everywhere

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/97570-cherokee-srt8.html

BTW, see this review, only to illustrate it is typical of a body shop to complete a car and leave it with swirls. They just do not know better and or have the skills or knowledge to finish the paint otherwise.

Also, I once took my car to a paintless dent removal expert to get a ding removed. He did an outstanding job of removing the ding. Their process of finishing the job was to take a dirty microfiber towel and some compound and hand buff the small area, therefore instilling a nice section of swirls. I cringed at first, and then fixed it when I got home. Us geeks see paint differently.
 
Jaretr1 said:
Also, I once took my car to a paintless dent removal expert to get a ding removed. He did an outstanding job of removing the ding.

Their process of finishing the job was to take a dirty microfiber towel and some compound and hand buff the small area, therefore instilling a nice section of swirls.
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And for what it's worth... I have 6 classes at Mobile Tech Expo each year and 5 of them teach guys how to do the above without leaving a swirled-out mess.

The other class is

The art of machine wetsanding

I've been teaching these classes going on 5 years now and Mobile Tech Expo is growing every year and attracts a LOT of PDR guys.

In fact, I have more PDR guys coming to my classes for just this topic, that is how to machine polish after the PDR or how to detail cars as an extra service to provide their customers.

:)
 
7PaintGuns said:
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"Made by the Shelby Electric Co. of Ohio, it's been shining bright, without a flicker, at the town's firehouse since 1901."



Need I say more?
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That is called an "Edison bulb". I just bought a bunch of them for my house. They make them still today. I'm sure they are knock offs - but they look pretty cool.
 
EzyBrzy said:
A couple hours away from me. If you were closer and wanted to tackle the job yourself I would have helped.
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Depending on where I may still take you up on your offer, reading up on hoe thin the clearcoat is I don't trust myself to not burn it.
 
So the owner is now offering to polish the entire car, but I'm not sure how I feel about that - the track record so far seems to indicate they may ruin the paint further.

Upon further inspection it really just seems to be the rear bumper, hood, and the four doors (and a bit of the panel above the driver's door) that have the most severe swirlies, so I feel a bit better, but still.... ugh.
 
cinderbike said:
So the owner is now offering to polish the entire car, but I'm not sure how I feel about that - the track record so far seems to indicate they may ruin the paint further.

Upon further inspection it really just seems to be the rear bumper, hood, and the four doors (and a bit of the panel above the driver's door) that have the most severe swirlies, so I feel a bit better, but still.... ugh.
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That actually sounds like a lot of damage. Don't be fooled. If they didn't know how to do it properly the first time, they sure as hell won't improve it the second time around.
They're going to remove more paint and not fix the problem.

Some great kits on sale. You can get everything you need to fix the swirls for under $300, and as Mike mentioned you can make that back if the detailing bug hits you, or sell the equipment. The dual action polishers Mike mentioned won't burn through clear coat. You've probably been reading horror stories about rotaries.

After you correct the paint yourself, you can drive it to the hack shop and show them how polished paint should look.
 
That's the weird thing, by all other accounts it shouldn't be a hack shop... To add salt to the wound, the insurance appraiser got involved, and when I attempted to shoe him the siwrl marks he proceedsd to rub the dirt off my car with his bare hands. I told him to stop and he brushed me off. "You can't scratch paint like that."

Is there a general lack of knowledge on basic car care these days? Or are people like me seen as, my friends always say "OCD nut jobs"?
 
When I went to the body shop, it was the guy the washed the car prior to the work that did all the damage.
 
cinderbike said:
That's the weird thing, by all other accounts it shouldn't be a hack shop...

To add salt to the wound, the insurance appraiser got involved, and when I attempted to shoe him the swirl marks he proceeds to rub the dirt off my car with his bare hands.

I told him to stop and he brushed me off.

"You can't scratch paint like that."
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The guy is ignorant about modern clearcoat paint technology. Probably thinks he knows it all. He's wrong. You can and you will scratch paint simply by rubbing it with your hand if there is dirt on the surface.

Clearcoats are Scratch-Sensitive



cinderbike said:
Is there a general lack of knowledge on basic car care these days?
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Yes. Too many of the guys that work in our industry don't know squat and that's what leads to horror stories like you've shared here.

Here's a shameless plug... all the Insurance Appraiser and the owner of the body shop and his employees have to do to catch up to the year 2016 is read this book.

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The first chapter covers paint history and explains why clearcoat scratch so easily.

The next chapter explains what holograms are and that's what your body shop guys did for you. So "yes" if they were to read this book not only would they understand the problem, (them), they would see the tools, pads and product to solve the problem.



cinderbike said:
Or are people like me seen as, my friends always say "OCD nut jobs"?
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You might be OCD but you're not a nut job. You just take care of the things you own because you work for a living to pay for them.


:)
 
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