Would you wax without claying?

[FUNX650]

now I know not every car really needs to be clayed but for the ones that need it would you do it? The reason for my question is because I've seen people offer wash&wax (no claying) and some offer claying as an up-sell. I include claying in mine but don't mention it unless a car is really bad then I offer it as an up-sell.

Good poser you presented here, Detailchick!

-I never clay, unless I plan to polish.

-Even though I rarely apply a wax nowadays....I assume you're referencing a 'carnuba wax'...After the polishing process(es) would be the time for that wax application to occur.

Also:
It seems to me (please correct me if I've misunderstood) that you stated that the inclusion of the claying process was part of a particular detail-package's price-point, unless, that is: "a car is really bad then I offer it as an up-sell".

My questions are, if you don't mind:
-At what stage of detailing vehicles is the determination made that it's bad enough for the claying up-sell?
-By what 'means' is that claying-upsell determination made?
-Are the Customers present and accounted for (pardon the pun) when the above two previous scenarios are genuinely existent? Or, perhaps by happenstance, in absentia?

Thanks in advance for any information you may be willing to share in regards to my above inquiries.



Bob

 

[rwright]

Waxing without claying is like taking a crap without using tolilet paper

In both cases your final result will not turn out as well as it should've

The topic at hand is officially finished and will now focus on Flash. Welcome back sir! :dblthumb2:

 

[alko]

FFFFFFLLLLLAAAASSSSSHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! Welcome back man!!! That was one helluva April Fools joke man.

 

[Porsche Pilot]

All is right with the world again. And yes, clay before wax.

 

[rwright]

Good poser you presented here, Detailchick!

-I never clay, unless I plan to polish.

-Even though I rarely apply a wax nowadays....I assume you're referencing a 'carnuba wax'...After the polishing process(es) would be the time for that wax application to occur.

Also:
It seems to me (please correct me if I've misunderstood) that you stated that the inclusion of the claying process was part of a particular detail-package's price-point, unless, that is: "a car is really bad then I offer it as an up-sell".

My questions are, if you don't mind:
-At what stage of detailing vehicles is the determination made that it's bad enough for the claying up-sell?
-By what 'means' is that claying-upsell determination made?
-Are the Customers present and accounted for (pardon the pun) when the above two previous scenarios are genuinely existent? Or, perhaps by happenstance, in absentia?

Thanks in advance for any information you may be willing to share in regards to my above inquiries.



Bob

PM sent Bob

 

[Detailchick]

-Even though I rarely apply a wax nowadays....I assume you're referencing a 'carnuba wax'...After the polishing process(es) would be the time for that wax application to occur.

yes and yes wash, clay, polish, wax

Also:
It seems to me (please correct me if I've misunderstood) that you stated that the inclusion of the claying process was part of a particular detail-package's price-point, unless, that is: "a car is really bad then I offer it as an up-sell".

I'm saying I have seen people not include claying when they wax they offer it as an extra thing for a seperate price (which the average person doesn't even know what it is or know that it makes a difference) ..Everytime I wax,polish,compound I clay but If the car is "really bad" I charge a little bit more. I guess I shouldn't have used the word "up-sell" for what I do woops

My questions are, if you don't mind:
-At what stage of detailing vehicles is the determination made that it's bad enough for the claying up-sell?

All my prices are based on estimates which I always state (ex:$60-$70 depending on the condition) If I have to charge more I will tell them $70 when the car is in front of me, If they ask why $70 I'll explain or even show what the claying process does if they ask or have the time. Alot of people have no clue what claying is or does so some think it's cool.

-By what 'means' is that claying-upsell determination made?

by bad I mean alot of tar, overspray, bugs and tree sap mainly big trucks,vans and SUV's ..to me they take longer and I have to consider my time in my pricing to actually make a profit.


I guess It depends on what's in my schedule I think we all do extra things that we could be charging extra for anyways. It's hard for me to see a shiny car with bumpy paint It's just not right... to me though