zymol and a sealant?

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Hello! Loving this website! Im a big fan of Zymol wax. However in my experience, Zymol's shine breaks down quickly, while it maintains great protection. My question is, would it be a smart idea to follow my Zymol coat with a sealant that could lock in Zymols shine and maybe offer a bit of a boost
to the shine. Would I be looking for more of a sealant, or would I get good results with using another wax like colly 845 as my next layer and LSP? Any thoughts?
 
If your considering putting colly 845 on.. I would do 2 layers of that and forget the zymol IMO. Putting a sealant on over a wax is not beneficial as sealant is designed to bond to the paint
 
I think you should get a bottle of c845.

Do a test, one part of your hood with zymol, and the other with c845. See which look you like more.

If you still like zymol, I *think* you can put on c845 on top of it, but I'm not sure if that would work well or not.

Tbh, I think you might end up liking the c845 more :)
 
Lets start with the basics.....What Zymol are you using?

And also....Welcome to AGO!!!!!!!!!! :welcome:
 
Thanks for the replies! Right now im using Zymols $49 basic wax. Im looking for a wax that will give off an obnoxious show car shine, last for about three to six months in both shine and protection. My Zymol comes out great but like I said earlier , I feel like it looses shine prematurely. And please excuse me if I seem somewhat inexperienced, as I am new to detailing.
 
So you're saying to use a sealant, followed by a wax for LSP? What type of sealant do you recommend besides Colly 845? Is there anything out there that's better?
 
smriddler said:
So you're saying to use a sealant, followed by a wax for LSP? What type of sealant do you recommend besides Colly 845? Is there anything out there that's better?
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Yes to your question.

I would say blackfire wet diamond sealant is one of the best out there. A bit pricey at 40 dollars for 16 ounces though.

But, when you think that you use only about a third of an ounce for the whole car, it makes it a little more affordable.

Apply THIN THIN THIN!
 
I browsed around for the Blackfire Wet Diamond and all I can find is a kit of different chemicals. How is the Blackfire Wet Diamond actually applied?
 
I also dig the Zymol. I'll apply it over Duragloss 111, or 101. Zymol is easy enough to apply that I don't mind applying it regularly, however I've had Carbon last unusually long when applied over Meguiars M80. I always wondered if it was a fluke.
 
It is said that after a vehicle has received its last step product (LSP) that is, in this case in point: A Wax...

It will then depend upon how a vehicle will be "touched" as it is will be exposed to/by environmental,
as well as man-made, contaminates; its wash/dry cycles and the type of wash mediums; indoor/outdoor storage;
daily-driver vs. "garage queen"; etc...that will ultimately determine the longevity of the wax that was so applied.

IMHO...
Asking a wax to provide what you are desiring from it:
smriddler said:
Im looking for a wax that will give off an obnoxious show car shine,
last for about three to six months in both shine and protection.
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Is quite unheard of...even under the best case scenarios.


-LSP waxes are generally formulated to provide a only a certain % of several different attributes...
Some of which are: protection, shine/gloss, durability, etc.
The more % of one attribute that a wax has, the less of a % of the other attributes will be contained therein.

-Some waxes are referred to as "Beauty Waxes".
Depending upon ones definition of: beauty...the above phrase could,
quite possibly, refer to what your concern was in your OP:
smriddler said:
shine breaks down quickly, while it maintains great protection
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BTW:
I'm interested on how you know that: Even after the Zymol Wax had broken down quickly...
the Zymol Wax was still protecting (and for how long). Thanks.
smriddler said:
shine breaks down quickly, while it maintains great protection
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:)

Bob

NOTE:
It has become the accepted practice to apply a sealant first, then a wax, if so desired.
 
I can tell that my Zymol is still on the car because the water still beads off of it very nicely. However, it just doesn't have the shine to it anymore.
 
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