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Dust2Glory
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oh no they're plenty crazy!!! but before I die, i want a the $7000 carnuba wax that comes with unlimited refills.* other than that they're not getting any of my money
YoMike
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Zymol has issued a request to a UK detaling forum not to allow their name to be used by certain detailers links so the forum is filtering their name in any post. This move has really turned people off on their product. Funny thing is most of the people there had praise for Zymol.
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Nica
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02CAMSS said:I just looked at prices on some of Zymols products and I think there on crack!(example)25$ for 8.5 oz of car wash is insane! Anyone have any thoughts on this? Am I the only one who thinks there crazy? Is the stuff that good?
The product you speak of is called Zymol Clear Auto Bathe, I owne quite a bit of this product plus others from Zymol and I have to admit you pay for what you get. I purchased these products strickly for my Lexus and for my friends high end vehicles. I have used there waxes and once again you pay for what you get, in my opinion it's money well worth it but then again that's just my $0.02
I have been folowing the UK Zymol situation and it's quite interesting the stance that Zymol is taking...very interesting...from a business perspective it does not make any sence what's so ever...oh and yes UK guys love there Zymol products and Zymol may soon find them selves replaced by a runer up product...oh like lets say Swissvax for example....just to name one
Thejoyofdriving
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the swissvax products look awsome, but there is one thing on there that i didnt like about their cleaner fluid-"The product does not contain abrasives. Swirl marks, light scratches, tar, tree sap and old wax are completely removed. you cant completely remove paint imperfections with out abrasives.[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
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Nica
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The cleaner fluid is some what like the Zymol HD cleanse, I haven't tried the Swissvax cleaner fluid yet but soon I will be
The cleaner fluid is just a base for the Swissvax wax to bond to the surface of the paint...kinda like Zymol and the HD cleanse and then the wax. I'm looking forward on using Swissvax products. I've read some great feed back and great details posted up...but still doing more re-search on the products. When I'm satisfied with my re-search I'll decide what to do.
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<edit> Here is what I found just a little different "This product does not contain abrasives. Swirl marks, light scratches, tar, tree sap and old wax are made invisible." Please don't take what I'm posting the wrong way, I'm not trying to prove you wrong or make you look bad in any way, I mean no disrespect....just thought I'd share what I've found during my re-search that's all nothing else.
The cleaner fluid is just a base for the Swissvax wax to bond to the surface of the paint...kinda like Zymol and the HD cleanse and then the wax. I'm looking forward on using Swissvax products. I've read some great feed back and great details posted up...but still doing more re-search on the products. When I'm satisfied with my re-search I'll decide what to do.
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not sure where you got that but it does not contain abrasives and it can not remove swirls, light scratches, tar, tree sap...but it will remove old wax or what ever was on the vehicle before puting the wax of choice. Well like I said I'm not expert on Swissvax but that's just from what I have re-searched that's all.
<edit> Here is what I found just a little different "This product does not contain abrasives. Swirl marks, light scratches, tar, tree sap and old wax are made invisible." Please don't take what I'm posting the wrong way, I'm not trying to prove you wrong or make you look bad in any way, I mean no disrespect....just thought I'd share what I've found during my re-search that's all nothing else.
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ScottB
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having purchased and used every Zymol from Titanium to Destiny, there is little to no difference between those and Souveran Paste, thus why I still endorse the product. I have only missed out on the newer Porsche Glaze that was introduced two years ago. I have tried Concours, Fantasy, and both Ital's as well as an intro kit with Atlantique and two others.
Each is ok, some even nice (Concours, Destiny) but no better than the 70.00 deal. Sure others may say different, but most are not exposed to as many products as I am, and most "believe" differently because their wallet tells them so.
Zymol and Swissol (now Swisswax) had some shared formulas and some they offered as stolen or too close. In the end some litigation took place and the name modification was the biggest outcome. I was surprised to find that Zymol was not the bigger and older company, but actually was established later.
Do a little search here and you will find the Pinnacle and P21S Paint Cleaners are actually just as easy to use, with same or better results and less expensive that the Zymol counterpart. Larger sizing too as I remember. These are all chemical based cleaners with fillers, thus temporarily hiding imperfections versus abrading them away.
Each is ok, some even nice (Concours, Destiny) but no better than the 70.00 deal. Sure others may say different, but most are not exposed to as many products as I am, and most "believe" differently because their wallet tells them so.
Zymol and Swissol (now Swisswax) had some shared formulas and some they offered as stolen or too close. In the end some litigation took place and the name modification was the biggest outcome. I was surprised to find that Zymol was not the bigger and older company, but actually was established later.
Do a little search here and you will find the Pinnacle and P21S Paint Cleaners are actually just as easy to use, with same or better results and less expensive that the Zymol counterpart. Larger sizing too as I remember. These are all chemical based cleaners with fillers, thus temporarily hiding imperfections versus abrading them away.
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budman3
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Nica said:
Nica. There are several products on the market that do not contain abrasives and actually removes swirls. Poorboy's Pro Polish comes to mind as does PwS (even though there are 'micro abrasives' but you can't feel them). This is when the cut of the pad determines how the products remove swirls. Just because there aren't any abrasives in a product doesn't mean it won't remove swirls (or fill in other cases). Pro Polish can remove 1500 grit sanding marks with a wool pad and a rotary.... yup thats a chemical polish.
ScottB
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I dont believe any chemical cleaner can actually remove swirls, it would have to chemically strip the clearcoat or paint in order to do so. What they offer is a "filler" that hides and reduces the look of swirls. This is why after a wash or two them seem to reappear.
And a micro-abrasive, no matter how small is an abrasive. As such it should be considered a polish or compound, not a paint cleaner only !
And a micro-abrasive, no matter how small is an abrasive. As such it should be considered a polish or compound, not a paint cleaner only !
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For the price they charge I cannot bring myself to even try it.Why would you spend all that dough on some of there wax when sig II,XXX,Max wax and pete's 53 are better priced and I am sure do just as good of a job!As far as the car wash I doubt it foams as much as DP extreme.
A bed being a bed ... That is why some people stay at the 'Ritz Carlton' and some stay at Motel 6 !!!!
Why is the ones with no cake are always saying 8.5 oz. for 25 ... are they on 'crack' .. Look PALS if you had some extra cake you being hittting the enter button !!!!
Why is the ones with no cake are always saying 8.5 oz. for 25 ... are they on 'crack' .. Look PALS if you had some extra cake you being hittting the enter button !!!!
supercharged
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I've tried Zymol Clear auto bathe as well as Treat leather conditioner.Nica said:The product you speak of is called Zymol Clear Auto Bathe, I owne quite a bit of this product plus others from Zymol and I have to admit you pay for what you get. I purchased these products strickly for my Lexus and for my friends high end vehicles. I have used there waxes and once again you pay for what you get, in my opinion it's money well worth it but then again that's just my $0.02
I have been folowing the UK Zymol situation and it's quite interesting the stance that Zymol is taking...very interesting...from a business perspective it does not make any sence what's so ever...oh and yes UK guys love there Zymol products and Zymol may soon find them selves replaced by a runer up product...oh like lets say Swissvax for example....just to name one
Both are very nice products and I really liked them. Zymol is totally different from Pinnacle. I'm really happy with all Pinnacle products, and will continue buying them. As far as Zymol - too expensive. Maybe it is a little bit better then Pinnacle (maybe), but for that little bit you are paying way too much.
Just my $0.02.
Opps
Busted the door on my truck, went to open it and somehow something got caught and I open it like normal, with that pressure broker the actuators and whatever gear inside b/c I heard "crack, ping, ping" sound as the piece dropped. Lovely Ford tried to make everything connected as one piece so when something breaks you have to replace everything, had to get a new door handle as well b/c of the the it connects and it'll be painted/cleared to install on Monday. Only 140 bucks total though, stealership wanted, ummmm....way more.
God love manufacturers and their bean counters, yeh lets make this whole thing basically one piece so when a little thing breaks they have to replace the whole thing.
Busted the door on my truck, went to open it and somehow something got caught and I open it like normal, with that pressure broker the actuators and whatever gear inside b/c I heard "crack, ping, ping" sound as the piece dropped. Lovely Ford tried to make everything connected as one piece so when something breaks you have to replace everything, had to get a new door handle as well b/c of the the it connects and it'll be painted/cleared to install on Monday. Only 140 bucks total though, stealership wanted, ummmm....way more.
God love manufacturers and their bean counters, yeh lets make this whole thing basically one piece so when a little thing breaks they have to replace the whole thing.
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stealership, huh?Surfer said:
I personally don't see myself using anything else since I have NB/CG5050/Souv, between those 3 the only Zymols that offer just a slight difference in look cost way, way more money. CG5050 is pretty much even IMO as it not only has the excellent depth/wetness of NB and Souv but has that optical clear look that higher end Zymols have (if that made sense lol).
mother frick...I meant to start a new thread not post....LOLsupercharged said:
Nica
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supercharged said:
Oh don't get me wrong, I really enjoy Pinnacle and I agree bang for the $ Pinnacle is a good product, I would never nock it. Pinnacle is what started the obsesion for me and from there I ventured out and found Zymol plus other products. I have always wondered the power of a highend wax, I mean to make a vehicle looks it's best it's the preping that really counts (I mean polishing/compounding). But I have to admit going from Mothers three step systems my self to Pinnacle Souveran was an amazing difference at least I saw it. Now trying some of those other products I have seen the difference. I'll never say this one is better then this one, becuase I don't really beleave in that...what I do beliave in though is that everything thas a purpose and the higher up products do serve a purpose and I've found that purpose...that's all
again that's just me and my $0.02 