New Combo For Priming M105?

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I've read the threads of different ways to prime your foam pad to achieve a longer working time and less dust. 1 combo that I didn't see mentioned that I'd like to get your feedback on is:

- LC Flat Orange sprayed with Pinnacle XMT Pad Conditioner, then primed with M105, then 2 pea sized drops of M105 and 1 pea size drop of M205 (instead of UC or D300 because this is all I have at the moment)

If I prime the pad with XMT Pad Conditioner, would it be necessary to still prime with M105?

What if I primed with M205 ontop of the Pad Conditioner, the used 3 pea sized M105 drops?

I'm just trying to find ways to utilize the last several oz of M105 until I pick up some M101 or HD Cut.

I should also add that I'm using PC XP7424. What do you guys think?
 
I wouldn't add any liquid initially, I think it makes the polish dry up faster. Prime the face of the pad thoroughly with M105, then blow out the pad or run a MF towel over it. Add 3 pea sized drops then go to town.

You definitely don't need a pad conditioner with M205. It's has enough lubrication on its own. Prime the same way you would with M105.
 
FivePoint.0 said:
I wouldn't add any liquid initially, I think it makes the polish dry up faster. Prime the face of the pad thoroughly with M105, then blow out the pad or run a MF towel over it. Add 3 pea sized drops then go to town.

You definitely don't need a pad conditioner with M205. It's has enough lubrication on its own. Prime the same way you would with M105.
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I've tried priming the pad with M105 but it still caked up quick and dusted like crazy. I don't have any problems with M205, it's just the M105 when I'm compounding. There's a thread that suggests priming the pad with spritz of baby oil and people have been giving positive feedback.

I should also add that I'm using PC XP7424

Thanks.
 
I mix ultimate compound in with my 105. I mix a couple of ounces of the UC and fill the rest of a 16 ounce bottle with 105. It extends the working time & makes it wipe off nicely.
 
What I've found to work the best so far for me was the following. Prime the pad with UC and then add 3 drops of product, 2 of 105 and one of UC. Although it wasn't the best I got more working time out of the product than priming with straight 105 and adding 3 dots of 105. To wipe off I had to spritz QD on the surface to make it come off easier. It was only my first time playing around with 105 but it was what worked for what I was doing (red single stage paint on a Saab).

I wish I could've got M101 but my local auto supply shop didn't have it.
 
Cool. I'll try priming the pad with M205 and to 2 drops of 105 and 1 of M205.

I'll also try priming another a pad with baby oil or pad conditioner and use 3 drops of 105.
 
I find I don't need to prime the pad using M105, a little goes a long way, something like a dime sized amount in the middle of the yellow 6.5" Megs pad. Put the pad on the paint and make a small circle spreading it out a little then turn on the polisher and spread it out over the area. As long as it's spread out thin enough it works really well and I find it's easy to remove.
 
How do you prime a pad with m105 or m205?
 
ph16 said:
How do you prime a pad with m105 or m205?
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What that basically means is put a good amount of product on the pad and move it around like peanut butter with your finger until you cover the surface of the pad.

Then they say to put 3 pea sized drops of product on the pad.

I like my technique better personally, but each to their own and whatever works best for them. :)
 
jmfp said:
I mix ultimate compound in with my 105. I mix a couple of ounces of the UC and fill the rest of a 16 ounce bottle with 105. It extends the working time & makes it wipe off nicely.
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I sort of do it your way but what I do is add 3 drops of 105 and 1 drop of UC and must say it works fantastic
Little dusting and very easy to wipe off.
I love my 105 more now:)

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jankerson said:
I find I don't need to prime the pad using M105, a little goes a long way, something like a dime sized amount in the middle of the yellow 6.5" Megs pad. Put the pad on the paint and make a small circle spreading it out a little then turn on the polisher and spread it out over the area. As long as it's spread out thin enough it works really well and I find it's easy to remove.
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A dime size of 105 on a 6.5" pad..seems to me that your dry buffing.
 
I don't like using pads bigger than 5.5" because they seem to hold more heat. Second, I turn the speed down to 4.5 on the polisher and the working time goes through the roof and I find it cuts great. I'm done with running it at 6 but I'm using a flex and that may not work well with a PC.
 
So I tried a hybrid approach and primed the pad with Pinnacle Pad Conditioner AND M205, then used 3 drops of M105. Better working time, less dust, easy to wipe off, BUT significantly less cut! I didn't expect to lose as much cutting ability as I did.

Again this is on PC and 5.5 LC Orange pad.

So today I'll try priming with spritz of baby oil and use 3 drops of M105.
 
I have the GG6 and from day one when I bought it I used speed 5, after awhile I played with the speed settings and found it worked much better at speed 4, way better.
No way I can run my PCXP at that speed but that's OK because the PC is setup to work with 4 inch pads , the GG6 is setup to work with 5.5 inch pads.
Life it good:dblthumb2:



Hazcat said:
I don't like using pads bigger than 5.5" because they seem to hold more heat. Second, I turn the speed down to 4.5 on the polisher and the working time goes through the roof and I find it cuts great. I'm done with running it at 6 but I'm using a flex and that may not work well with a PC.
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I've primed my pads with uc, then continue with 105. It creates almost no dust, and cuts really well.

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i primed my orange pad with 205 then used 2 small drops of 105 on a 12"x12" section, I was only able to get 3 passes before it dried up, a little spritz of ONR allowed me 2 more passes. Cut well, mind you this was on a 2000 Ford Ranger with soft black paint and Flex 3401.

I don't find 105 to be very user friendly, I honestly dread using it
 
I have always been a megs fan but I personally hate 105. I will gladly spend more to use blackfire or wolfgangs new compound. There is no comparison in my experience. I realize it is much more money but to me it is worth every penny. I have a 32oz 105 collecting dust in case I run out of uber compound or blackfire. I think megs needs to go back to the drawing board if they want to stay competitive. I use a flex but have years of rotary experience with megs products. I do however like 205 if you don't want a lot of cut.
 
jankerson said:
I find I don't need to prime the pad using M105, a little goes a long way, something like a dime sized amount in the middle of the yellow 6.5" Megs pad. Put the pad on the paint and make a small circle spreading it out a little then turn on the polisher and spread it out over the area. As long as it's spread out thin enough it works really well and I find it's easy to remove.
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:eek::awman::eek:

Rsurfer said:
A dime size of 105 on a 6.5" pad..seems to me that your dry buffing.
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:iagree: That would be the definition of dry buffing. Easy to remove when none is there. :dunno:

jbnery6465 said:
I've tried priming the pad with M105 but it still caked up quick and dusted like crazy. I don't have any problems with M205, it's just the M105 when I'm compounding. There's a thread that suggests priming the pad with spritz of baby oil and people have been giving positive feedback.
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Most likely the pad is too wet. Priming is important, but 105 is crazy to work with when there is just a ever so little bit too much.

Prime with a mix of 105/205 then do a "pad cleaning on the fly" in your terry towel. From there the first use of the pad would be NO MORE than 3 small pea sized drops, (maybe only 2). Mixing it with 205 is an excellent idea as well.

For that matter, I've mixed 105 with UC making 105UC, then with say 300 for (405) as well as with 151 making (256). :) (FWIW the first two seem to work better than the latter.)

That being said, 105 will dust. It is a bit fickled to deal with and what works on one paint may not work at all on another, (in regards to how the pad is primed and how much you use the first time around). Especially if the paint hasn't been buffed before or is old and dry. I totally agree with the less is more statement, but the pad has to be primed first.
 
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