Modesta Glass Coatings

Mike lambert said:
I do know of a test between c quartz finest and modesta, modesta did not fair well in several tests.
I just think the price per car makes it unreasonable
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Mike lambert said:
The gentleman I talked to in Florida also told me the prep polish actually decreased durability?
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Mike, Can you PM me some of your links and info. I have been interested in Modesta but the cost is high IMO. I am a user and love CQ.


Also I agree with some statements I have read previously. There is a big difference between 3 &10 years as far as durability. I would really like to see some real life durability and testing before jumping in. Heck it took me 2+ years before I started with OC because I was skeptical.

 
Sounds like hype. One guy is saying it's not as chemical resistant as CQF, another guy is saying they heard it needs to be SANDED off. It's probably just another ceramic type coating.
 
swanicyouth said:
Sounds like hype.

One guy is saying it's not as chemical resistant as CQF,
another guy is saying they heard it needs to be SANDED off.

It's probably just another ceramic type coating.
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^^^:iagree:^^^


For those that prefer either sheeting, beading {or both (?)}:
It be pretty neat, though, if the following Modesta products lived up to their marketing...

-Pure Hydrophillic glass coat
-Advanced Hydrophobic glass coat

I noticed that:
They both have their own separate, yet complimentary: Hydrophillic/Hydrophobic Shampoos.
(à la Pinnacle Black Label)

:)

Bob
 
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Got some samples today... will post my thoughts whenever I have a chance to try them out :)
 
FUNX725 said:
^^^:iagree:^^^


For those that prefer either sheeting, beading {or both (?)}:
It be pretty neat, though, if the following Modesta products lived up to their marketing...

-Pure Hydrophillic glass coat
-Advanced Hydrophobic glass coat

I noticed that:
They both have their own separate, yet complimentary: Hydrophillic/Hydrophobic Shampoos.
(à la Pinnacle Black Label)

:)

Bob
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I was reading a thread, elsewhere, about hydrophilic/hydrophobic and the over riding message is that this particular industry does not understand the terms. I will be honest that I have not yet encountered a hydrophillic product with any durability. I am unsure one exists, each time someone talks about one they talk about water sheeting off. It runs off in one big sheet and leaves the paint dry. Alas that confirms it is not hydrophillic - yes, water would form a sheet, but it would stick. Much of it would run off down to gravity but you would be left with a thin film of water which would not run away, it would actually dry/evaporate. The closest thing I encounter to this is a really dirty vehicle - no beading, water sticks to it and dries off uniformly. This is why dirty vehicles seem to dry much more rapidly after a rain shower. I have never encountered discussion like this which further convinces me.

Will be interested to hear how people get on with these - contradicting the above, I do know that there are industrial coatings from one of my primaries which sounds a lot like what I read from modesta. If they actually do come from this source, I would be inclined to believe what is claimed.
 
I had to google it but opti-coat is a 9H hardness rating which, as far as i gathered from my little google search, is just a scratch resistance rating. So as far as chemicals who knows could be a good comparison between this and opti-coat in that department as well.
 
Hey Gents,

My name is Jonathan i am new to this forum, but a veteran on a few others (6speed - Bimmer post - RDF - Helifreak).

I was looking at Modesta Aftercare and came across your thread on the product. I found out about it from a member in my M5 forum whom had his M5 detail by Paul in the UK using Modesta. I did not know who Pual was nor anything about Modesta but his review was awesome. I did a lot of research and decided i would get my new M5 coated with it. I called up my normal Opti coat installer John Gray from Gulf Coast Auto Shield and asked if he would be willing to give it a go on my new car.

He spent 20hrs of work:buffing: over two 2 days prepping and applying the primer, BC-5, and M1 shot. I have Opti on my other cars so i can compare to Modesta. He also removed the wheels, coated the glass, Calipers, tail pipes and head lights with Opti products.

I was only with the car three days after the coating was applied and then had to leave for work. I won't be back for another two weeks but I am looking forward to see how its has fully curried. They say it take about two week and the gloss enhances as it cure.

My initial review it that the product is AWSOME. Very different from Opti. The FEEL was my first noticed change. At one point John told me I had to stop touching it! You can really feel the coating it feels thick, slick and almost plastic like the new iPad air screen. The gloss is also unreal. It was more than opti.

The day after the coating was installed i headed to a local motor shop to get some work done and the car got rained on. When i pulled in to the shops garage the car was 98% dry. The only water left on it was on the rocker panels. I was impressed. So far i give it a thumbs up and a big thanks to John!!

(Note this is my first glass coat) Lets hope it lasts. :dblthumb2:

Looking forward to see what others think of the product and learn about proper aftercare. Feedback please
 
Thanks for the feedback!
Your Beast is looking good.
Please post updates periodically on how the Modesta is doing
 
DetailedTaco said:
Nice! Keep us posted! Should be interesting too see a review using it first hand.
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ZeroSP said:
Keep us posted mcgovern
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Will do - I doubt I will get around to testing it until Spring/Summer.

I am hoping to do a side-by-side test with Opti-Coat (possibly both 2.0 and Pro), CQ UK, CQ Finest, and Modesta.

It will be interesting to see how the 'cheaper' consumer coatings hold up compared to the more expensive 'pro' coatings. Modesta is BY FAR the most expensive with prices ranging from $220/bottle to $293/bottle... and they market each bottle as 1 application (ie used for only 1 vehicle). For this reason alone, I doubt it is a product I will ever implement into my own business, but I am still looking forward to trying it out.
 
zmcgovern45 said:
Will do - I doubt I will get around to testing it until Spring/Summer.

I am hoping to do a side-by-side test with Opti-Coat (possibly both 2.0 and Pro), CQ UK, CQ Finest, and Modesta.

It will be interesting to see how the 'cheaper' consumer coatings hold up compared to the more expensive 'pro' coatings. Modesta is BY FAR the most expensive with prices ranging from $220/bottle to $293/bottle... and they market each bottle as 1 application (ie used for only 1 vehicle). For this reason alone, I doubt it is a product I will ever implement into my own business, but I am still looking forward to trying it out.
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That's an awesome test.

P/S: My 4.5 years Civic actually has 50/50 OC Pro and OC2.0... They bead the same until today. I do not have a thickness gauge to take a reading. But OC2.0 as promised, it is easier to go on than the OC Pro.
 

I am still considering trying Modesta for my personal use, but more for testing compared to other established coatings I have used. (CQ, CQUK, OC Pro, Wolf HB)

 
John applied the Modesta as directed and used just over half a bottle on my midsize car. So you may get two cars out of one. The primer should last 3-4 cars. That may help cost wise, one could assume 3 Suvs out of 2 bbtls.
 
I am more than interested on Modesta. I have Megs M21 synthetic sealant and megs carnuaba wax on my truck but am looking to "step up my game." from looking around, I cant find exactly where one can buy it? will one "order" cover a full size truck?
 
Spinny02 said:
John applied the Modesta as directed and used just over half a bottle on my midsize car. So you may get two cars out of one. The primer should last 3-4 cars. That may help cost wise, one could assume 3 Suvs out of 2 bbtls.
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3 SUV's for over $500 worth of product (including primer)... still too steep for me. I would have to charge my customers an arm and a leg for that service in order to justify the added product cost.

BlackRam said:
I am more than interested on Modesta. I have Megs M21 synthetic sealant and megs carnuaba wax on my truck but am looking to "step up my game." from looking around, I cant find exactly where one can buy it? will one "order" cover a full size truck?
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search for 'Modesta USA' then click on the 'customer login zone' at the top right of hte page... or contact Brian Guy at AOwheels, he can point you in the right direction if you can't find it.
 
Spinny02 said:
John applied the Modesta as directed and used just over half a bottle on my midsize car. So you may get two cars out of one. The primer should last 3-4 cars. That may help cost wise, one could assume 3 Suvs out of 2 bbtls.
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I've had BC-05 sitting on the shelf for about 6 months now and just haven't had time to test it.

I was told that the contents are under pressure and it will go bad shortly after opening...so unless you can do two vehicles back to back that's not a viable option. I had to look for the email to find out how long you have but I just check the instruction sheet and it's not listed on there so who knows....
 
McGovern point taken this coating is not one you would sell to everyone. There is a large market for this product in Houston due to the amount of high end cars with people willing to spend/ invest in a coating.

could be wrong but Opti coat pro for a full vehicle,lens, glass, rims is about $50-75 in product ( guessing). The modesta will run you 125-150 more is cost per car plus your added profit. That's not too bad. You will also need IR lights to cure the bc5 correctly ( I don't think you need the lights for bc3 ) so that is an added cost that you would have to factor in over the lights lifespan.

The real question is if it worth the extra money=) I am looking forward to your test to see if I pissed it away or made the right move. The added protection and less hassle may not be proportional to the added cost but if it leads the pack I will be happy regardless of cost. In my case I wanted the best. Some may want the most cost effective.

Keep us informed! Maybe we can prod you to do the test before the spring?

zmcgovern45 said:
3 SUV's for over $500 worth of product (including primer)... still too steep for me. I would have to charge my customers an arm and a leg for that service in order to justify the added product cost.
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