Looking for a "Glassy Hard Candy Shell" look out of a LSP...

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Tried WGDGPS... too warm looking. I think Blackfire goes for the same warm look. Want razor glass like finish.

Tried the Klass twins and liked the look but man it was a bear to remove... also didnt like the fact I had to do 3-4 layers of SG to get the look.

I dont want a permanent sealer like Opti Coat, etc...

Any suggestions on what to apply after a full correction?
 
Best bet would be dp paint coating or black label coating. HD Poxy is the only sealant I've ever used that gives similar looks.

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I agree, I think you will need a coating to get that effect. If your reason for not wanting a coating is that you like waxing, go with the black label, you can wax over it.


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Working on a Dark Metalic Blue Audi S5.

High on my list is Supernatural Hybird Sealant Paste due to the reviews of "high shine" I've read and the ease of application. Its not some "watery" product like Klasse HGSG which just wasn't enjoyable to work with or especially remove.

Tried Collinite 915 (due to rave reviews of working well on dark colors) but I found it too warm and muted the high reflective shine I had right before I put it on (used PS21 Paint Cleaner, great stuff).

I know its odd that I have a dark color but still prefer the "bling" look.
 
One of these double first-cousins:
Duragloss or the "Z".

Bob
 
mdgrwl said:
Tried WGDGPS... too warm looking. I think Blackfire goes for the same warm look. Want razor glass like finish.

Tried the Klass twins and liked the look but man it was a bear to remove... also didnt like the fact I had to do 3-4 layers of SG to get the look.

I dont want a permanent sealer like Opti Coat, etc...

Any suggestions on what to apply after a full correction?
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Klasse is NOT hard to remove, you just need to know how to apply/remove it. Basically you keep your applicator damp, spray 2 sprays onto the pad (any small spray bottle will work but if it sprays a lot, reduce to 1 spray per panel) work in, left to right and up and down and then remove IMMEDIATELY! Because KSG is an acrylic product you can't apply it like other products but if you follow what I just posted you'll have NO issues. Now I will agree that you do need to apply a 2nd coat to get a "candy look", maybe a 3rd coat but the results speak for themselves and its basically a wipe on, wipe off product, so its easy to use but you do need to wait 12 hrs inbetween coats though as its got to set up or cure.

Give KSG another shot doing it this way and you'll be happy, trust me!

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Duragloss #111/601 @ a 4:1 mixture followed 1 hour later by #111 alone. Trust me, this will get you that look and offer very durable protection at the same time. I actually prefer the look you're trying to obtain as opposed to the warm, carnauba-like look that people love.
 
MattyL said:
Duragloss #111/601 @ a 4:1 mixture followed 1 hour later by #111 alone. Trust me, this will get you that look and offer very durable protection at the same time. I actually prefer the look you're trying to obtain as opposed to the warm, carnauba-like look that people love.
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Nailed it.
 
An acrylic based product is what you want to use to achieve that look - Klasse & Werkstatt come to mind.

Also, Pinnacle Black Label Coating Booster looks glassy, especially on light colored vehicles and it claims to be useable as a standalone LSP with up to 6 month durability.
 
MattyL said:
Duragloss #111/601 @ a 4:1 mixture followed 1 hour later by #111 alone. Trust me, this will get you that look and offer very durable protection at the same time. I actually prefer the look you're trying to obtain as opposed to the warm, carnauba-like look that people love.
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I would suggested this as well but I commented on KSG because, once again (no fault of the OP) KSG gets a bad rap due to not knowing how to properly apply/remove it. That said, no special tips or tricks when using DG #111, well other than mixing in #601 with #111 at the 4:1 ratio (4 parts #111- 1 part #601) and actually, if you wanted to add some more candy to the finish, apply a coat of Black Fire Crystal Seal, love that stuff. When I ran out I wanted to try Ultima, which I bought during the Christmas sale but haven't been able to use it yet during the winter, looking forward to seeing how it compared to BFCS!

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mdgrwl said:
Working on a Dark Metallic Blue Audi S5.
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If it were mine and I wanted the glassy, hard candy shell look I would use a paint coating.

Besides that...



mdgrwl said:
High on my list is Supernatural Hybrid Sealant Paste due to the reviews of "high shine" I've read and the ease of application.
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I've only used the Supernatural Hybrid Sealant Paste on one old 2-door Ford but it did turn out nice...

Pictures: 1928 Model A - Wetsand, Cut and Buff at Autogeek


I pan over the paint on this old Ford in FULL SUN after sanding, rotary buffer work, polishing and the Dodo Juice Supernatural wax.




Dodo Juice Supernatural Wax
Check out the gloss in the paint, besides all the cool sanding and buffing tools we used, we also used the new Dodo Juice Supernatural



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Dodo Juice Supernatural Wax, 250 ml. Refillable Hardwood Pot


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mdgrwl said:
Its not some "watery" product like Klasse HGSG which just wasn't enjoyable to work with or especially remove.
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And the entire reason I wrote the below article was an attempt to help people about to use Klasse SG.

A tip for working with waxes, paint sealants or coatings that are new to you



Here's a dark blue car we coated right after SEMA, at that point we were also the first to showcase and use the new Rupes polishers and MF pads.


2013 Dodge Charger - Black Label Diamond Paint Coating- New Rupes Polishers - Pictures & Video



First, here's the video from this live broadcast... lots of tips and techniques shared all the way through on machine polishing with Rupes polishers, detailing in general and how to prep paint for application of Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Paint Coating as well as how to apply and remove the coating.



New Rupes Polishers & Black Label Diamond Paint Coating​


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Here's the after shots...

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Here's the team shot...

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Honorable mention to Robert Diterlizzi who had to leave a little early...


On Autogeek.net

Pinnacle Black Label Surface Cleansing Polish

Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Paint Coating


More pictures in the thread...

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How is the scratch resistance on the Black Label coat Mike? Others like Opti-Coat boast about it, but the in the AG description, it doesn't really touch on this subject.
 
mdgrwl said:
How is the scratch resistance on the Black Label coat Mike? Others like Opti-Coat boast about it, but the in the AG description, it doesn't really touch on this subject.
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One thing for sure, it makes the paint feel very slippery and that has to help with resisting some type of scratching or marring. I would never treat a nice finish no matter what the product on it with less care because I thought my LSP would save the day.

For what it's worth, I have BL Diamond Paint Coating on my personal truck right now and I'm going to re-polish the truck, possibly this weekend and re-coat it before I take it wheelin in the mud.


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wildwilly1 said:
so would the duragloss 111/601 work good on black paint
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Well prep is key, especially on black but rest assured, once you get that looking good, that combo will make that paint look 10' deep, no doubt about it! Not only will you love the results you'll also love knowing how much you spent to achieve the final look, can't beat that, period!

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