Paint Correction - So Frustrated Please Help

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I'm about ready to give up. I can't figure this out. I've got an 05 Tsx in premium white pearl and I'm trying to correct the paint. So starting on my test spot ( passenger rear pabel) PC white pad and WG swirl remover. Nothing. Then meguiars UC on orange pad. Eh a little bit. I'm working in maybe a 16 x 16 spot. I'm going about an inch a second, and still can't get it. Brand new pad, nothing. More product, less product , slower, faster, light pressure heavy pressure, and I still can't get what I'm looking for. Do I need to just upgrade to a rotary? http://i.imgur.com/AysT9bL.jpg
 
My initial thought is that you are applying too much pressure to the DA and in turn causing the pad to slow or stop rotating completely. Using a permanent marker, make 3 or 4 reference lines on your backing plate so you will be able to monitor pad rotation. Then you'll be able to adjust pressure based on rotation to maximize results.
 
What speed are you polishing at and what machine are you using.

Should be soft paint that will correct easily.
 
You're not really working with heavy cutting products. Either get some M-105, M-101 or shrink your work area down to a 10" to 12" area. Microfiber pads would be a more aggressive step up too.
 
Using a scale, I got pretty good at applying ~10Lbs of pressure. I've already marked the pad at 12,3,6,9 per Mike Phillips instructions and the pad is definitely rotating. I'm working at speeds between 5-6 on a PC 7424XP
 
I don't see any reason to not have the speed set to 6, and nothing lower if you are looking to correct. IMO that machine is underpowered. Can it get the job done - yes of course, are their better options, probably. But the machine is not the reason you are having difficulty.
 
Just02896 said:
My initial thought is that you are applying too much pressure to the DA and in turn causing the pad to slow or stop rotating completely. Using a permanent marker, make 3 or 4 reference lines on your backing plate so you will be able to monitor pad rotation. Then you'll be able to adjust pressure based on rotation to maximize results.
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Maybe your applying too much product. Did you prime your pad?

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tuscarora dave said:
You're not really working with heavy cutting products. Either get some M-105, M-101 or shrink your work area down to a 10" to 12" area. Microfiber pads would be a more aggressive step up too.
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:iagree: Step up to a more agressive compound and/or MF pads..
 
They are CCS Orange I believe. I've been looking at the Griots.. Is it really that much more of a powerful machine?
 
Idk, this seems like a technique issue to me. Ultimate compound on an orange CCS pad should not have any problem taking swirls out of Acura paint. OP, is the picture you posted before or after you started working?


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I've been through this when I started. My guess would be not enough downward pressure, since your moving slow enough. With a PC and foam pads, you can use much more downward pressure to make it a bit more aggressive. Your not going to burn paint. While ~ 15lbs is suggested, sometimes you can use almost as much as the machine can deal with to keep spinning.

To correct defects, a PC should have one speed: 6. However, like Dave said, you may just need a more aggressive combo, but my guess is that this is technique related, unless the car is a repaint.

You don't need a rotary.
 
Your fine with the PC, no need for a rotary.
Try this......

Buy yourself a bottle of Wolfgang Uber Compound, it will give you one hell of a cut but finish down very well, use an orange pad, you should be fine then follow up using Meguiar's 205 Ultra Fine Polish using a white pad.

Whatever you do don't give up man, keep at it and I promise you will succeed :)
 
swanicyouth said:
I've been through this when I started. My guess would be not enough downward pressure, since your moving slow enough. With a PC and foam pads, you can use much more downward pressure to make it a bit more aggressive. Your not going to burn paint. While ~ 15lbs is suggested, sometimes you can use almost as much as the machine can deal with to keep spinning.

To correct defects, a PC should have one speed: 6. However, like Dave said, you may just need a more aggressive combo, but my guess is that this is technique related, unless the car is a repaint.

You don't need a rotary.
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This was something I've been thinking about. I know there is such a thing as too much pressure if the pad isn't spinning, but as long as the pad is spinning I can apply more pressure? I'm not worried about damaging the clear, from everything I've read it can't be done with a PC. I just thought if the pad was allowed to spin more freely, it would cut better. Thank you for the help!
 
HateSwirls said:
Your fine with the PC, no need for a rotary.
Try this......

Buy yourself a bottle of Wolfgang Uber Compound, it will give you one hell of a cut but finish down very well, use an orange pad, you should be fine then follow up using Meguiar's 205 Ultra Fine Polish using a white pad.

Whatever you do don't give up man, keep at it and I promise you will succeed :)
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So you think that stepping up the compound instead of to a MF cutting pad would provide better results? I never knew which step to take first when needing to get more aggressive. The pad or the compound. I do need to place an order for some new items, and was looking at the Uber Compound, or 105, or Menzerna, just can't remember the number of their aggressive cut compound.
 
Also don't forget to clean your pad as you go because build up on the pad will keep it from working correctly.
 
muscleman said:
Also don't forget to clean your pad as you go because build up on the pad will keep it from working correctly.
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I agree, but personally I use a bunch of clean pads for each step to avoid the inevitable build up. Like fresh tires in racing, fresh pads are hard to beat!
 
I use three pads for the car. 1) Hood/Bumper/Fender/Driver Door. 2) Rear driver door, half roof, rear fender, trunk, bumper. 3) Passenger side rear fender, both doors, and other half of the roof. Each new pad I make sure to give it a quick sprits with QD, then prime the pad with above average amount to coat the face of the pad.
 
I just got done correcting the paint on my 2010 Acura TSX which is painted in Premium White Pearl as well. I used M105 (Similar to UC), M205, Menzerna PF2500 all on Lake Country flat pads with a Porter Cable. I had no problems. My suggestion would be to make sure your surface is prepped by stripping all wax/sealant and claying. Feel free to PM me if you have questions.
 
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