randomevent
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- Dec 25, 2013
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Wow great questions.... shows you're really thinking....
To get the answer, let's take a look at what I wrote and recommended in my first reply to this thread, note the parts that are in bold text...
I don't like to assume but sometimes I do as not assuming makes me have to type a whole more words to go into detailing about really common sense stuff to me and most on this forum.
Assuming a person is using high quality products,
By the words high quality I in context of compounds and polishes I mean good abrasive technology.
By the word product I mean a Fine Cut Polish or an Ultra Fine Cut polish.
Then assuming a person is using either a high quality fine cut polish or ultra fine cut polish, then working the product for multiple, multiple passes in order to break down the abrasives isn't necessary.
I think in my how-to book I recommended making 4 section passes when using polishes in these categories.
Now if a person is just,
Cleaning up the paint before waxing
Then you wouldn't have to work small sections like if you were compounding. In fact I'd take on half a hood at one time, make a few passes and move on and have no fear of leaving scratches because I didn't break down the abrasives by machine or because I inflicted scratches when wiping the residue off by hand because the abrasives were not broken down first by machine.
I think when it comes to quality products, breaking down the abrasives is not as much of an issue as people think it is. For example, when you feel a quality fine cut or ultra fine cut polish between your fingers you're not going to feel anything. Nothing. Now if a person is using cr_p for products then they're already losing the battle.
I think when people "think" on this topic and the read the words,
break down the abrasives
There's an automatic picture in their minds eye of rocks in a bottle and that's just not so and not what I'm talking about when I talk about using quality products.
When I first worked with Wayne Carini's guys all the cars had swirls. I switched them over to Pinnacle Advanced Swirl Remover and Advanced Finishing Polish for the steps after compounding and now all the cars they buff out look great. You see Marius posting pictures of his work and the results look fabulous. These are high quality products and they are also products I use on a lot of the show cars that go through our shop.
I only use products I trust on the car I buff out on my own and I only use quality products on the cars that come through the AG garage.
So in summary, "yes" I can buzz around a car by machine using a high quality fine cut or ultra fine cut polish just as fast as I could using a paint cleaner or pre-wax cleaner and actually do a much better job of creating a beautiful finish since the polish will do more to improve car paint than a simple paint cleaner.
Nothing wrong with paint cleaners but once you're in-the-know, why use a paint cleaner when you can get the same results or better by using a fine cut polish by machine in the same relative time.
Good question...
I hope my way of thinking and what I practice myself makes sense...
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The way that I'm reading this, I'd be better off doing a 1 step with m205 or ultimate polish, or something equivalent, insetadof using White Wax. That would maximize my time?