....Their statement is "we'll find you something, we'll figure it out"..
This is seriously grinding my gears!
That... I mean
THAT STATEMENT is something that you get when they don't really care one way or another if you stay.
And it'd grind mine too!
OTOH, from the employers standpoint what you may be running into is a situation where these 'others' have been brought it, hired on, transferred from another department as both younger AND more competitive yet carried that higher "price tag" with them when they came on board.
CarMomma has worked at her office for over 30 years. For the first 27+ it was privately owned, had 9 locations, and she was a big fish in a small pond. As such they rewarded her handsomely. Now it's been bought out by a company in every state (including AK & HI) and has over 10,000 employees. She (being a manger) has seen it all during these 3 plus decades. Way back when.... they'd hire only the best and reward them for their abilities (or use a Temp Agency and have a revolving door for those they didn't want to keep). Now it's about the younger, more aggressive, (and sometimes more marketable) individuals.
Going in, being full of gumption/moxie (as a new hire) tends to impress. Doesn't mean the new hires are as good as you at this point, but it DOES (at times) mean that in the future (to the powers that be) they
will be better than you. You might be making less now, but they might be on a much slower road to raises. (Although it'd take 10~15 years for you to catch up if you're 20K apart.)
Good for you applying for 27 jobs in 2 days! :dblthumb2:
My daughter (a while back) was looking at moving onward and upward. She was a department manager at a nationwide sporting goods store, (loosely named after the plural slang part of a male body part).
:laughing: She made it a point to apply for no less than 10 jobs a day, every day, and did that for over a month. She ended up getting a Store Manager position for her trouble.
Now however (
after she got married last year) she went back to school and became an ABA certified Paralegal, (
she was pre-law in college) and now works for a downtown law firm.
And finally got out of retail management altogether!
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(Although there, she doesn't make any more money (for now) but has a LOT better hours, some 20 per week actually with only a half day on Fridays.)
The kicker is.... since she's been in law she has turned down offers to get back into retail that would have grossed her $80K~$95K going in, yet turned them down because she's really really happy working 'lawyers hours'.
The thing is.... you have to constantly be strategically marketing yourself within your chosen environment these days to get ahead. Doesn't work like it used to, where you showed up, worked hard, paid your dues, and (hope) your bosses noticed along the way then constantly rewarded you. These days you MUST constantly look at how you position yourself, and what that position brings to the company that others may not. (
Although it's a good chance they already do.) Your VP and his boss (
and bosses) look at 'go getters', and as you've recently found out.... reward them. They also recognize and love the fact that they are paying you less. (
Even if it seems to you like it might have just been an oversight, and you'll catch up "when they figure it out".)
The message that came your way in another post talking about HOW to address your salary, and WHAT would be the figure in mind for your particular job was spot on. As has been said, you can't go in saying "
This guy makes this, that guy makes that, I don't make anything CLOSE". But what you CAN (
and should) say is what would that position be offered to a new hire for? One with your experience (
insert time on job here), with your education (
if it indeeds matters, and especially if it's directly related to your field) with your report and sales numbers (
insert analytics and/or all other pertinent data your company uses here), your ability to handle and manage people (
insert your own background here)? You have to remove yourself here, put the figures down as if it were someone else, and be analytical about it. Nothing more, nothing less. You start saying how YOU do this and YOU do that and HE is this and HE isn't that and you'll be lucky the door doesn't hit ya' where the good Lord split ya'.
It simply cannot be put to him like you have an axe to grind, or that you've found out you're low man on the (pay) totem pole.
(
Yet he clearly already knows that.)
But when put to him/them/anyone you speak to about a new job in fact..... in terms of 'hiring' and how what YOU (as a new hire brings to that position)
that relates to better, more efficient management, and it comes across that you are a team player, a team leader, and a dedicated manager.
