Murder at Large in my Hood

Slept with this antique artifact under near by:

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Was good news hearing that he was found and like mentioned,from his own doing. Just to many crazies out there today.
 
Was good news hearing that he was found and like mentioned,from his own doing. Just to many crazies out there today.


Yeah, I just don't know what would make a person do something like this. I've been in bad and dark places in my life (some really bad) - but I never thought of anything like this.

Apparently, the guy was a veteran and used a walker - so maybe he was a disabled veteran? It also mentions he was in a custody battle with the women he killed.

Part of me thinks what kind of women has children with a psycho like this??? Then, part of me thinks: maybe she drove him nuts??? Women can do that that ya know....


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going crazy can be like discovering allergies. something just starts to misfire...neural pathways get detours or sink holes, brain chemicals get out of whack and next thing you know, you're barking at the moon or worse. you CAN NOT PREDICT CRAZY. that's just the bottom line...and it's scary.

one thing i don't understand is why more people in PA, a state that is very carry friendly, don't arm themselves. i live close enough to you where our local news is Philadelphia news...and we generally watch Action News when we watch the news. so many people they'd interview during this and other things like it act as if they'd be at the mercy of this ballbag if they came upon him. that's so weird to me. if that dude came at me or my people...or on my property, he'd probably end up dead from gun shot wounds. the one situation that bucked that trend was up in NEPA when Eric Frein was running around. the people up there seemed more prepared.
 
Our local paper (Reading Eagle) is currently running articles pertaining to our judicial system in regards to the death penalty and how many have been actually put to death etc. Famlies suffer for years knowing that justice hasn't prevailed, in other words, the system is'nt working.
 
I wish we could carry across the river here in the garbage state, these "D" heads have the advantage and they know it. Why should only cops and judges have the ability to protect them selves. And don't shoot one of these dirt bags in your home unarmed kiss your wife goodbye your going away.
 
this reminds me of over a few decades ago when the "night stalker" richard ramirez was terrorizing southern california with his murdererous rampage. it scared the crap out of me when i was younger and you're dayum right at nightime we would close/lock all the windows and doors even though his crimes happened over an hour away from where we lived. no excuse for a human being like that, they should of just shot him when they caught him...

Too many crying liberals these days
 
and also too many bad human beings...



If society would allow these criminals to be punished commensurate to their crimes, there would be fewer people wanting to do wrong ... point for each of us
 
If society would allow these criminals to be punished commensurate to their crimes, there would be fewer people wanting to do wrong ... point for each of us
Until society, as a whole, can be trusted to never
miss-the-boat when doling out punishments...

I will take solace that the ferryman Charon will be
making no erroneous judgements whenever
taking his passengers over the river Styx...
and down into the fifth circle of Hell.


Bob
 
If society would allow these criminals to be punished commensurate to their crimes, there would be fewer people wanting to do wrong

This guy killed himself when he was done, exactly what kind of punishment would have been a deterrent to him??
 
This guy killed himself when he was done, exactly what kind of punishment would have been a deterrent to him??

Unfortunately there are some that refuse to learn from the consequences of others and would commit the same atrocities.
 
Unfortunately there are some that refuse to learn from the consequences of others and would commit the same atrocities.

C'mon man, the people who do these things are mentally ill, none of these crazy shooters are criminals who actually think about how much time or punishment they are going to get, they are CRAZY, as builthatch noted earlier.

Do you honestly think that someone like this guy, who killed his ex-wife IN FRONT OF THEIR CHILDREN, was thinking "well maybe I shouldn't kill my ex-wife and her whole family, I might go to jail or even get the death penalty..."? Sane people don't do these things, that's why things that would deter sane people don't matter to them.

EDIT: And the sad part is, in a lot of these cases (but certainly not all), the perps were known to have mental health issues, but yet were not adequately treated or institutionalized (as applicable), or had their access to weapons restricted. This guy was noted by his Marine associates as "odd" and he claimed to be suffering from PTSD. The VA Tech shooter and the Aurora theater shooter were known to be mentally ill but yet were still able to procure weapons.

And yes, it's pretty hard to know a harmless crazy from a crazy about to shoot his wife in front of his kids, but let's at least target that as the problem instead of conflating this with criminal justice problems of overcrowded jails and backed-up judicial systems which result in bad guys being on the street, that's a different issue than these psycho shooters.
 
C'mon man, the people who do these things are mentally ill, none of these crazy shooters are criminals who actually think about how much time or punishment they are going to get, they are CRAZY, as builthatch noted earlier.

Do you honestly think that someone like this guy, who killed his ex-wife IN FRONT OF THEIR CHILDREN, was thinking "well maybe I shouldn't kill my ex-wife and her whole family, I might go to jail or even get the death penalty..."? Sane people don't do these things, that's why things that would deter sane people don't matter to them.

Setec, while I agree that there is a small fraction of those who commit crimes are insane, and those who are truly insane need help or to be permanently kept away from society for everyone's protection, the vast majority are "normal" people who for some reason feel the law doesn't apply to them, or they feel 'entitled' to take what is the property of someone else, and if that means killing the rightful owner or an innocent bystander, so be it.

Do you feel that in all the recent protests around the country that ALL the looters and rioters are insane? Instead of locking these people up, FORCE them to rebuild that which they so happily destroyed.

My dad was a cop for over 30 years and he told me that most crimes are committed due to greed, self entitlement and a lack of respect for others, none of which are considered traits of someone who is insane
 
This thread is about a crazy guy, who did crazy things, and killed himself after, not about what you are dragging into it.

Who is talking about looters and rioters? You're conflating two different things. I'm not defending looters, rioters, or other criminals, I'm objecting to you suggesting that crazy people will be deterred from being crazy...not gonna happen.

And you are crazy if you don't think I don't know the difference, I live in a county where a guy can get arrested for grand theft auto, and get arrested 6 more times before he goes to trial for the first one, that's how backed up our courts are, I get it. But no matter what you do on the criminal front, crazy people, LIKE THE GUY THIS THREAD IS (was?) ABOUT, will still be crazy.
 
This thread is about a crazy guy, who did crazy things, and killed himself after, not about what you are dragging into it.

Who is talking about looters and rioters? You're conflating two different things. I'm not defending looters, rioters, or other criminals, I'm objecting to you suggesting that crazy people will be deterred from being crazy...not gonna happen.

And you are crazy if you don't think I don't know the difference, I live in a county where a guy can get arrested for grand theft auto, and get arrested 6 more times before he goes to trial for the first one, that's how backed up our courts are, I get it. But no matter what you do on the criminal front, crazy people, LIKE THE GUY THIS THREAD IS (was?) ABOUT, will still be crazy.


My bad, I didn't mean to stir the pot so to speak. Guys like this thread was originally referencing are criminally insane, and who can't change and should be dealt with accordingly .. IF they don't off themselves first.
 
Mentally ill? IMHO a cop out. Everyone is mentally ill now. In this modern self indulgent society, people have the time and resources to sit around all day and indulge their feelings. How am I feeling today??? Who cares? Shut up and go to work. Can't work due to PTSD or some other diagnosis? If the government wouldn't feed you and you were hungry - you would work. Believe me there. That's how things went 100 years ago before we invented PTSD, ADHD, and a whole list of other acronyms.

100 yrs ago we had none of this and kids weren't shooting up schools and gunmen weren't shooting random people. Go figure.


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As Steve said.... 100 years ago people had to do what the NEEDED to do, lest they starve. Today there is the underlying current that if you don't *do*, you need not *do*..... which time and time again we are seeing the results of those that "don't".

Where we used to live the woman next door would take in 'strays' and collect a government check for letting them live with her. (Although she worked nights and they'd run the streets.) The guy across the street, a hard working, honest, God fearing, family man caught them running around one night about 2:30am. When he ran out on his front porch to confront them and tell them to get their arses in bed they became belligerent and started calling him "Uncle Tom". This infuriated him as he tried to explain that it didn't make a difference WHO or WHAT or what color you were, that you had to work, you had to be respectable, and you had to respect others. All the while he was about 30 seconds from opening up a fresh belt whoopin' on their teenage rear ends. The dialog from them kept up, still calling him "Uncle Tom" at which point he finally asked them, "Do you know why there are so many N*'s in prison??? Because the stupid little N*'s like you run around doing STUPID STUFF! Get your arse in the house before I throw you through the window!"

Funny thing about the lady they lived with was that she was a county Sheriff! Worked at the jail. He then went inside and called her at work, told her he almost BEAT THEIR arses, and about 30 minutes later she came home and DID!


Grand Theft Auto = Horse Theft = 'lets have a hanging on the square 1st of the month". :) Thin the heard..... that'll get their attention sooner than you think. :eek:

Let the punishment fit the crime. Take my car, I take yours. Destroy my property, claim it as yours, you forfeit everything you own. Drive drunk.... get driven over by a drunk. :rolleyes: (Sorry.... that last one is a pet peeve of mine after being in the Towing Industry for 18 years, too up close and personal to that one.):dunno:

And yes, John Browning did make all men equal!
Good ol' 1911, cocked, locked, and ready to rock!
(Although it's funny how people will think a striker fired gun is somehow more safe than a cocked n locked 1911.) ;)
 
Mentally ill? IMHO a cop out. Everyone is mentally ill now.

You're a pharmacist and you've never seen a genuinely mentally ill person? I'll be darned, I guess that John Wayne Gacy fellow was quite the actor, just pretending to be nuts by eating his victims and burying the corpses under the floorboards of his house just in case he got caught so he could plead insanity! Good times.

There's a pretty big gap between someone trying to get on disability or making an excuse for not going to work and shooting your ex-wife in the head in front of your own kids. What exactly was the shooter in your 'hood trying to game the system out of when he killed his ex-wife and her whole family? Oh yeah, he wanted leniency after he killed himself.

This thread is making me lose faith in humanity...and not because of the perp.
 
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