Jeweling Wax - Definition

I'd say that the Meguiar's D301 "Finishing Wax" would absolutely fall into the very light, jewelling end of the spectrum. So much so in fact that what... over 2 year after D300 and D301 were introduced Meguiar's came out with D302, which actually falls IN BETWEEN D300 and D301 on the cut scale. (That and it doesn't have any sealant/wax in it.)

Now there are several though that Menzerna has, that ARE actually a very light polish with a wax/sealant.... and those are pretty hard to find.

Back last year there was a BOGO on Menzerna Sealing Wax (apo60 I think) which was in a white bottle with an orange label. Got two of those then, and it'll seriously jewel! :xyxthumbs: Since then, it's become hard to find. Likely due to a bottling change, which moved to a purple and gray label that reads "SW Protect" on it.

NOW.... if you look at the yet AGAIN new bottling / labeling from Menzerna they have TWO products that seem to fit the bill. ;)

First you have to look through their new convention, step by step process, then look up their stuff with a "4" on the bottle. The new nomenclature follows the steps, 1, 2, 3, 4 for workflow.

The first of them is Power Protect Ultra which shows as a 2 cut with 10 gloss (2/10) on their scale. (Oddly enough... the scale/slider thingy is EXACTLY in the same place as my old bottles of Sealing Wax.)
Next there is another rebottling of a product they are calling Sealing Wax that isn't showing any cut, described as:
Produces a deep gloss and brilliance on the coating surface.
Builds up a protective film that counteracts the adhesion of dirt.

Keep in mind that this - IS - NOT "Power Lock", it's another sealant altogether, using the terminology from way back (when it was in the white bottle with an orange label), still calling it "Sealing Wax". Strangely enough.... it doesn't say ANYTHING about cut on the photos I'm looking at on the Menzerna site, but I do know for YEARS that Sealing Wax has had an ever so slight amount of cut in it. (Again, 2/10 cut/gloss.)

So it *seems* that there are still AT LEAST TWO from Menzerna that provide both cut, and a "wax". (Which of course is some sort of sealant.) Could actually be 3, if not 4 different bottles, depending on whether or not you can find the white/orange bottles, along with the black bottle purple/gray label "SW" product.

And if that wasn't enough to cloud the waters so to speak. Let us not forget Menzerna Top Finish Machine Glaze! :rolleyes: Considering that at some point, meaning that we DO drive our rides, that to expect 100% correction 100% of the time is just unrealistic, so therein we have the need for a filler. ;) I've not tried Top Finish, but if the powers that be, would be ever so charitable and send me a bottle..... I'd SURELY be willing to use it, as well as write a review on how it behaves on our DD's around here. ;)

And of course I didn't forget about the 3-in-1 (AIO) from Menzerna either. But this conversation is about "jewelling wax/sealant" products. :)


Then we come full circle to.... of course.... Meguair's D301 Finishing Wax. Which by all reasonable points, fits the bill of a jewelling product very well indeed.:props:
 
The naming of this product is misleading

It is not actually a glaze and is not designed to leave protection behind

It is actually a fine finishing polish. Very similar to Menzerna SF4000

No idea why PBMG decided on this moniker



.

One thing I found out, is the old timers.

Guys in there 50's +

LOVE THE WORD GLAZE and using GLAZE.

I have no idea why, every middle age man that comes on my shop talks about glazing and it drives me nuts lol.

I guess it because glaze really did help single stage paints, and they never grew out of it. Not understanding the base coat clear coat system.

I told them I don't glaze it's pointless.

It's not polishing and not protecting it's a waste of time to me, unless you don't have alot of time to polish and need to hide some defects, other then that :thumbdown:

So it could be some marketing strategy, but yes words like that do get confusing.

Detail kings have some polishes with the word glaze for polish and it drives me nuts.
 
One thing I found out, is the old timers.

Guys in there 50's +

LOVE THE WORD GLAZE and using GLAZE.

I have no idea why, every middle age man that comes on my shop talks about glazing and it drives me nuts lol.

I guess it because glaze really did help single stage paints, and they never grew out of it. Not understanding the base coat clear coat system.

I told them I don't glaze it's pointless.

It's not polishing and not protecting it's a waste of time to me, unless you don't have alot of time to polish and need to hide some defects, other then that :thumbdown:

So it could be some marketing strategy, but yes words like that do get confusing.

Detail kings have some polishes with the word glaze for polish and it drives me nuts.

This 60+ loves the word GLAZE :) Thanks for the education....
 
This 60+ loves the word GLAZE :) Thanks for the education....

Didn't mean any offense, I'm sure you understand the difference between compound,polish,wax,glaze,sealant.

I was talking about people that don't understand the difference, and just used the word glaze, cause it sounds cool!
 
Didn't mean any offense, I'm sure you understand the difference between compound,polish,wax,glaze,sealant.

I was talking about people that don't understand the difference, and just used the word glaze, cause it sounds cool!

No problem,,, Thanks to uinz here on AG and autopia I have learned the difference :) That`s why I am wondering if the jeweling procedure would help in getting my arctic White toy to that next level..
 
I'd argue that a cleaner wax, glaze with protection, including some correction ability with micro abrasives has been around for years....CG Blacklight. Obviously technology gets better over the years but as far as this product being the first of its kind categorically...it may be a different type using carnuba instead of a sealant, and it may very well be superior as any new product should be compared to a five year old product...but I'd argue it's nots new conceptually speaking.
 
One thing I found out, is the old timers.

Guys in there 50's +


LOVE THE WORD GLAZE and using GLAZE.

I have no idea why, every middle age man that comes on my shop talks about glazing and it drives me nuts lol.

I guess
it because glaze really did help single stage paints, and they never grew out of it. Not understanding the base coat clear coat system.

I told them I don't glaze it's pointless.

It's not polishing and not protecting it's a waste of time to me, unless you don't have alot of time to polish and need to hide some defects, other then that :thumbdown:
Didn't mean any offense, I'm sure you understand the difference between compound,polish,wax,glaze,sealant.

I was talking about people that don't understand the difference, and just used the word glaze, cause it sounds cool!
So you guess...?
Thanks, I guess, for trying to help.

But that was yesterday.
How can you better embarrass yourself today?


Bob
 
So you guess...?
Thanks, I guess, for trying to help.

But that was yesterday.
How can you better embarrass yourself today?


Bob

How did I embarrass my self?

There was no reason to take offense in what I said.

The majority of People from the old school rotary and rubbing compound Era have not adapted to times, and understand how everything works today.

My father is one of them, he still loves, to glaze him self, he prefers palm olive dish soap then any car shampoo on planet earth. He thinks you can one step a car with 3M compound and a rotary.

And I found this to be with alot of the guys he went to school with, nothing wrong with being the reason I was referring to age.

Was because of that particular time Era, we're there wasn't alot of products offered and people never adapted or leanred, the difference between
compound, polish, glaze, wax, sealant.

Witch is fine for the everyday person who doesn't care about car care, but guys that own muscle cars, and attend car shows, they all should know, the difference
 
Used the McKee's 37 trio of polishes on this 1978 Corvette anniversary pace car

Used

Fast Cut compound - MF cutting pad
Fine cut polish - rupes Yellow
Jeweling wax - Hex Logic Blue

Keep your eye out for my write up review.

Jeweling wax is awesome stuff
 
How in the world have I missed this thread for 3 weeks? DUH!

Just a question...If a "polish/wax" is considered a jeweling wax, wouldn't "Meguiar's NXT2 Wax" fall into that category?

Bill
 
How in the world have I missed this thread for 3 weeks? DUH!

Just a question...If a "polish/wax" is considered a jeweling wax, wouldn't "Meguiar's NXT2 Wax" fall into that category?

Bill


I've used a LOT of NXT in my life. NXT Tech Wax was the idea for an all synthetic wax that I included in the report I wrote in 2003 for Meguiar's management titled,

The Zaino Case Study


It was a product intended (by me) to compete head to head with Zaino Z2

The idea was accepted only instead of a non-cleaning pure synthetic it was decided to give it some very light cleaning ability because it would be marketed at the masses and as most of us understand, the masses drive daily drivers and because the paint on daily drivers becomes stained over time, any wax sold at the retail level for the masses must offers some type of cleaning ability or the masses won't see a "difference" from before to after.

While NXT does offers some light cleaning in my experience it doesn't work like an ultra fine cut polish which is how McKee's 37 Jeweling Wax works. I know I wouldn't use NXT Tech Wax to try to jewel paint nor would I try to use it as a replacement for McKee's 37 Jeweling Wax.


Everyone's mileage may vary.


:)
 
Thanx Mike! I understand what you mean.

I kinda remember some of the 'Zaino War' from 'back then', but being on a dial-up in those days I never had a lot of time to read and digest it all. Is that case study available to read nowadays?

Thanx again...

Bill
 
If mckee jewling is that good , how would mckee 360 fall . Would 360 be a jewling wax also.
 
If mckee jewling is that good , how would mckee 360 fall . Would 360 be a jewling wax also.

McKee's 360 and jeweling wax are 2 different products.

360 is going to have more cut and correction power, than jeweling wax, jeweling wax has a mild abrasive that you might find in a product like menzerna sf4500 but it also has a wax.

360 can be used as a stand alone peoduct, or a second step to go behind a compound process.

Jeweling wax is usually the 3rd step after typically to jewel paint you would have to compound, polish, jewel, then use wax or sealant, but with jeweling wax you can compound, polish, jewel and wax at the same time. Witch means you can skip a step and do the 3-4 steps all at once.
 
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