New BOSS user

Going from rotary to a random orbital is going to give you a very different user experience.

I also started with a rotary, but for me, I took to a r/o like a duck to water - I absolutely loved it. It was the "missing link" between the rotary, and my 6" Black & Decker waxer.

However, some guys have a harder time making the transition. I was requested to give a buffing lesson to a local detailer. It was clear that he would need to reconcile his time expectations with the r/o machine. I can only imagine that the experience is fairly common for those coming from a rotary.

Take a look at some of the videos that Griots released when the BOSS system debuted - if you haven't already. Jeff Brown did a phenomenal job explaining the system, and how to use it.

Mike Phillips also recently released a video demonstrating the usage of a random orbital tool.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx8DhK691e8
 
Guys,
Thanks so much... after watching the videos it certainly makes more sense... I ordered some of the BOSS 5" and the backing plate along with some correcting and perfecting cream...

I will let you know how it turns out once I receive my order...
 
Technique plays a huge role in getting great results. Watch the videos, they will help.
 
The more I look at the Boss Machines, the more I'm liking them. Maybe one day I'll snatch me a 15, and permanently relegate my PC7424XP to use smaller backing plates and pads.
 
MarkD51 said:
The more I look at the Boss Machines, the more I'm liking them. Maybe one day I'll snatch me a 15, and permanently relegate my PC7424XP to use smaller backing plates and pads.
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Similar story with Rupes for me. I love my 7424, and 7424xp, but the allure of those tools was too much to bear...

It arrived on a bitterly cold January day in 2015. I saw it sitting on the porch, when I got home from a long day at the car wash. The sun had just disappeared for the day. After letting it warm up a bit, I took that Duetto out of the box, got a pad on it, some compound, and started testing on a scrap door I had in my basement, and the rest is history.
 
dlc95 said:
Similar story with Rupes for me. I love my 7424, and 7424xp, but the allure of those tools was too much to bear...

It arrived on a bitterly cold January day in 2015. I saw it sitting on the porch, when I got home from a long day at the car wash. The sun had just disappeared for the day. After letting it warm up a bit, I took that Duetto out of the box, got a pad on it, some compound, and started testing on a scrap door I had in my basement, and the rest is history.
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Yeah, I know how hard it is, to sometimes resist the temptation to quickly open a half frozen box with electronic goodies inside, like a kid on Christmas.

I had to fight that horrible urge about a year ago, with a $10,000 pair of Bryston Monoblock Audio Amplifiers that came on an ice cold day in march from Alberta CN. I knew they'd be like blocks of ice. 5 Hours of torture I went through to let temps start to equalize and warm up, and making the sign of the cross that all was intact inside in the meantime. They were! :-)

I at least like the idea, that when ordering through AG here during the colder months, things take a more "southern route" across the country to my location, and not passing through super frigid cold.
 
kbiddle said:
Guys,
Thanks so much... after watching the videos it certainly makes more sense... I ordered some of the BOSS 5" and the backing plate along with some correcting and perfecting cream...

I will let you know how it turns out once I receive my order...
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Good choices. The creams were designed around the polisher and pads so you will enjoy them. If you need more cut, fast correcting cream is getting a lot of recommendations. Good luck and post photos of before, during and after.
 
I do like the descriptions and options for the new Boss Machines. want it to operate like the Rupes, then don't install the optional spacer washer supplied. Different size backing plates available, Stick handle, Bail handle if you want them, Good quality bearings, total redesign, nice ergonomics, on and on, and the warrantee they have is a no brainer.
 
MarkD51 said:
Yeah, I know how hard it is, to sometimes resist the temptation to quickly open a half frozen box with electronic goodies inside, like a kid on Christmas.

I had to fight that horrible urge about a year ago, with a $10,000 pair of Bryston Monoblock Audio Amplifiers that came on an ice cold day in march from Alberta CN. I knew they'd be like blocks of ice. 5 Hours of torture I went through to let temps start to equalize and warm up, and making the sign of the cross that all was intact inside in the meantime. They were! :-)

I at least like the idea, that when ordering through AG here during the colder months, things take a more "southern route" across the country to my location, and not passing through super frigid cold.
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Nice amp choice, I have 3 Bryston 3B's running my front 3 channels (Martin Logan's). Such sweet amp's. I had one break at around 10 years old and they covered it under there ridiculous 20 year warranty.
 
MarkD51 said:
I do like the descriptions and options for the new Boss Machines. want it to operate like the Rupes, then don't install the optional spacer washer supplied. Different size backing plates available, Stick handle, Bail handle if you want them, Good quality bearings, total redesign, nice ergonomics, on and on, and the warrantee they have is a no brainer.
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if you look at this video, the one out of three that vibrates the least is the BOSS...
 
The one that vibrates and makes the least amount of noise. seems to be the Flex XFE7 (can't say if it is the XFE7-15 (the old one) or the XFE7-150 (the new one)) to me, from the amount of motion in the guy's forearm and watch. The G21 seems to be in the middle, and the Rupes 21 Mk II is the worst. Much of this is dependent on pads used. though.
 
kkritsilas said:
The one that vibrates and makes the least amount of noise. seems to be the Flex XFE7 (can't say if it is the XFE7-15 (the old one) or the XFE7-150 (the new one)) to me, from the amount of motion in the guy's forearm and watch. The G21 seems to be in the middle, and the Rupes 21 Mk II is the worst. Much of this is dependent on pads used. though.
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The Rupes pad was sitting on the edge and thicker than the other pads. That deformed the pad and threw off the balance. That's the explanation. The Flex 15mm is not as powerful as the Rupes MK II


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Didn't mean to insult anybody, just commenting on the video as it appears in the posting. I do see what you are saying about the Rupes pad being deformed by having it sit on the edge. What I don't know is what pads are being used on each polisher (factory pads for Boss and Rupes? Lake Country for Flex and maybe G21?). It just may be that the Rupes may have come out better with a different pad or a pad that wasn't deformed. I still don't see the G21 having less vibration that the Flex, or a lower sound output.
 
WRAPT C5Z06 said:
The Rupes pad was sitting on the edge and thicker than the other pads. That deformed the pad and threw off the balance. That's the explanation. The Flex 15mm is not as powerful as the Rupes MK II


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I've got a Rupes Mark II a G21. I've heard the Flex was a pretty powerful machine. Did you personally use a Flex?
 
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