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Hi guys, I recently got a new '16 Golf Sportwagen in December. The car was sitting on the dealer lot for a bit so it does have some washing swirls, mostly on the hood and roof. It's a metallic silver with a hint of gold/beige in certain lighting so they are pretty hard to see normally, but I have to get rid of them. Lol

I haven't had a chance to go over it fully with the DA. I did try a few quick passes with a Lake Country orange cutting pad and HD Speed but it didn't seem to do anything. I know from my past and current VW's that the paint is pretty hard, not really easy to scratch and difficult to correct. I want to avoid using a multi step process since I barely have any time lately. What do you think is my best option for pads and product in this situation?

I am currently using the Meguiars DA Power system which worked great for correction on my Sonata (soft paint), but I will be picking up a Griots 6' DA next month. Will I be good using my current supplies with the more powerful, real DA? Or is there a stronger AIO and better pad I can get to prepare?

Thanks!!
 
CarPro Essence technically qualifies as an AIO I suppose....


By manipulating your pad choice, you can get quite a bit of cut out of this product even though it also works exceptionally well as a fine finishing polish.

This was Essence on a MF Cutting Pad.
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Good choice of DA.......see how you do with your current pad/product setup.....then see if you need a more aggressive pad
 
zmcgovern45 said:
CarPro Essence technically qualifies as an AIO I suppose....


By manipulating your pad choice, you can get quite a bit of cut out of this product even though it also works exceptionally well as a fine finishing polish.

This was Essence on a MF Cutting Pad.
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Did it honestly feel like it was 90% pad 10% Essence that got the job done there?

Reason I ask is because I've put Essence up against similar defects with a foam polishing pad and it rarely if ever makes a dent in them.


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my two main AIO's (for now, AG to blame) are mckees 360 AIO it has great cut easy on, easy off. great working time and has a really good sealant in it that ive had about 4 months of protection out of but then replaced, not because it failed but because well... im an autogeek and I cant resist try new things

my second is essence, but ive only used it with BOSS MF cutting pads for cars that are like the black one pictured above and buff and shine foam pads for a fine polish. its worked great in both but since it fills in defects and cuts its hard to say which one its actually doing. I do use it more often now though, im on my 3rd bottle in 6 weeks
 
Eldorado2k said:
Did it honestly feel like it was 90% pad 10% Essence that got the job done there?

Reason I ask is because I've put Essence up against similar defects with a foam polishing pad and it rarely if ever makes a dent in them.
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Absolutely... results are always largely pad dependent when it comes to getting the most out of fine and medium polishes. Likewise, you can also vary the amount of product used to increase the amount of abrasives over a given area (refer to Kevin Brown's M205 method), however I do not find this works too well with Essence, however a MF pad will drastically enhance the cutting power of the product.


98% of the time we use Essence as a fine finishing polish to remove marring after compounding.
 
zmcgovern45 said:
CarPro Essence technically qualifies as an AIO I suppose....


By manipulating your pad choice, you can get quite a bit of cut out of this product even though it also works exceptionally well as a fine finishing polish.



what pads are you using for that correction? and also which do you use for essence as a fine polish?
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Cruzscarwash said:
what pads are you using for that correction? and also which do you use for essence as a fine polish?
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As I mentioned above, that was with Essence and a MF Cutting Pad.

For fine polishing I have found that I prefer the Rupes Yellow or White Pads (we use yellow 90% of the time or more).
 
I've had really good luck with Griots One-Step Sealant. With a Lake Country Flat Pad, I get a decent amount of correction and the gloss is really good too.
 
On occasion I have had luck with Megs D151 and Megs MF Cutting pad. However, there is some filling but certainly corrects well for an AIO.

Better yet, since you are ramping up your involvement in detailing how about you shout out to forum members in your area. Most of us are always eager to help out. And, most of us have way too many products and pads acquired during our heavy addiction years. That way, you could do test spots with various products and pads to determine the best combo. This will save you buying 20 different products to "experiment" with!

Good luck and have fun detailing the Golf!
 
I've had great results with Menzerna 3 in 1. Only complaint is that its a little smeary on removal so I always go over the car with some spray detailer afterwards. The cut is really good depending on pad choice and it finishes really nicely as well. On a scale of 1-10 it is about a 6, same as D151 mentioned above. Essence is about a 3 and HD Speed is about a 2-3. Most AIOs are in the 2-4 range in terms of aggressiveness.
 
Meguiars D151 Paint Reconditioning Cream :xyxthumbs:


Bob
 
You have some good things to use at the moment. The limiting factor is that DA power system. It won't give you the correction that a DA will give you. HD Speed is a favorite. I have never used it so I can not attest to how it corrects.

But I've got to give it up to GSKR who recommended Meguiar's Mirror Bright Polishing Wax. I put it up against this heavy oxidation as a test spot and it did a good job.

Used it with a Meguiar's burgundy foam cutting pad on a Rupes LHR15 MKII.

 
SonataLF said:
Hi guys, I recently got a new '16 Golf Sportwagen in December. The car was sitting on the dealer lot for a bit so it does have some washing swirls, mostly on the hood and roof. It's a metallic silver with a hint of gold/beige in certain lighting so they are pretty hard to see normally, but I have to get rid of them. Lol

I haven't had a chance to go over it fully with the DA. I did try a few quick passes with a Lake Country orange cutting pad and HD Speed but it didn't seem to do anything. I know from my past and current VW's that the paint is pretty hard, not really easy to scratch and difficult to correct. I want to avoid using a multi step process since I barely have any time lately. What do you think is my best option for pads and product in this situation?

I am currently using the Meguiars DA Power system which worked great for correction on my Sonata (soft paint), but I will be picking up a Griots 6' DA next month. Will I be good using my current supplies with the more powerful, real DA? Or is there a stronger AIO and better pad I can get to prepare?

Thanks!!
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just use a good finishing compound and miguiars fast finish. its so easy to apply that its basically a one step.
 
Desertnate said:
I've had really good luck with Griots One-Step Sealant. With a Lake Country Flat Pad, I get a decent amount of correction and the gloss is really good too.
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i got a free bottle and gave it to someone who i dont think even used it. i wish i would have kept it.
 
I have been VERY happy with McKee37's 360 and Griot's BOSS Sealant.

ScottH
 
My go-tos right now are Griot's Garage Boss Finishing Sealant and McKee's 360. Both products, when combined with a Lake Country orange medium cutting pad and a Flex 3401 or Boss G15, turn out wonderful results. I only have a handful of uses with McKee's 360, so I can't speak too much about it, but the Griot's Boss Finishing Sealant is outstanding. It cuts and finishes extremely well on black paintwork (metallic or otherwise) and leaves lasting protection. It is also extremely easy to remove. I can't get enough of it! :)

Griots Garage Boss Finishing Sealant
 
for those who haven't seen this, joe did a video on the BOSS finishing sealant...
 
Hard Paint paint D151 with Orange B&S cutting pad

On medium/soft paint, HD Speed on a B&S white heavy polishing pad provides a decent amount of correction but also finishes down perfect. If the paint is on the harder side I will almost always try it on an orange cutting pad before moving onto d151 due to speeds unrivaled ease of use.


On chalky oxidated gelcoat or on clear coat that seems to leach the oils from compounds and polishes halfway through a buffing cycle. I'm not sure if any of you have experienced this on occasion as well but in my experience those are the occasions where Menzerna 3n1 has saved me a ton of time. Otherwise 3n1 is WAY too oily and a PIA to work with, especially on glass. Unlike Speed and d151 which are almost as easy to remove on glass as they are on paint. Menzerna 3n1 leaves an oily mess that even an hour later won't be dry.
 
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