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Me saying that degreaser or apc drys out your hands was a example for using the wrong product for the wrong job.
Me being misleading? I do not know if you read the entire write up or just skimmed through it. I wrote that very statement that pad cleaner is stronger and more affective at cleaning foam than apc or degreaser. The problem is the residue that remains from degreaser/apc/dish soap. That is what is drying out and degrading the pad.
All purpose cleaner and degreaser was not designed and formulated to clean foam. Polishing pad cleaner is. It is stronger more effective and leaves no residue behind, because it was designed for specifically for foam and foam only. If you was to use pad cleaner on leather or other surfaces it can cause damage being that it was only designed for foam
Rasky earlier talked to Jeff Brown griors garage product developer and he said the following " they utilize surfactants rather then relying on sodium-salt based cleaners which can leave behind a residue"
Again not designed formulated tested for foam. Like i said in my write up you will remove the polish out of the pad however residue will remain in the pad.
Something i did not put in my write up and is a perfect example is microfiber cutting pads.
If you use the black boss microfiber cutting pad you will see after using apc/degreaser/dish soap a white residue on the hairs of the microfiber. Because its black. And no matter what after the fact even the polishing pad cleaner does not remove the residue.
If you use microfiber cutting pads you will notice how the microfibers feel hard and dry. That is from the remaining residue.
Again like i said in my write up you can use gasoline and it will remove the polish, that does not mean no damage is being done.
Dish soap was designed for dishes. Car soap was designed for automotive paint. All purpose cleaner and degreaser. Did not go under multiple chemistry tests to see if they are damaging pads. Pad cleaners sole purpose was to clean pads and pads only.
You can use dish soap to clean your car and it will get clean so why do we use car shampoo?
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Dedicated pad spray cleaner is more effective. Not to say it’ll remove all sealants, but it’s more effective than a pad rejuvenator(bucket).Reviving this thread...I used McKee's Pad rejuvenator the other day to clean pads that were used with McKee's 360. Mixed as per instructions...1 scoop to 3-4 gallons water. I let the pads soak for over an hour, and they went straight into the solution after use. They didn't sit around to dry. Scrubbed the face of the pad with a pad brush and ran under water just as was done in this article. I was never really able to get all the product out of the pad by using just this method. I had to resort to a bit of APC and Dawn to get the job done. Was kind of disappointed. My question is...would I be better off and see better results using the McKee's Polishing Pad Spray as was done in this article, or a different dedicated pad spray for that matter? I thought once the pad rejuvenator was mixed properly with water it was as effective as the dedicated pad spray.
AIO tend to stain pads. I try to squeeze out the AIO that has seeped into the pad before cleaning. I keep pads for AIO use only (orange/green/white) and clean them the best I can. If its just color staining I don't care as long as I was able to get the product out of the pad.
The Megs DynaCone pad cleaner is one of the best I have tried to remove sealants, waxes, and AIOs out of pads, but it takes forever to rinse out the cleaner. Suds for a long time.
I've been using Griot's microfiber and foam pad cleaner. I wonder what is different about their product that they represent it for both microfiber and foam pads?
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Not every apc is created equal, the apcs you see for an amazing price point use cheaper and more harmful chemicals.
The apcs that are more expensive per gallon use higher quality ingredients that are less harmful on surfaces.
You saying that no residue is left behind, can you prove that in a scientific matter, or are you just assuming that all of the residue is gone because it doesnt foam anymore?
The chemist I spoke to explained to me that residue will still remain in the pad and will ALTER the feel of the pad.
Use a pad cleaner on a boss microfiber cutting pad and the apc you are talking about. And after you rinse/dry you will see a white residue that remains on the hairs of the microfiber pad.
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Correct, but I'm talking about foam.Lots do...McKee's says there's is good on mf pads as well.
Question, a while back I bought the bottle of this cleaner and just now received the 1 gallon size and the label identifies Polishing pad conditioner? Is it one in the same?