Blackfire Midnight Sun paste wax over polish angel?

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I just found a good deal on Blackfire Midnight Sun paste wax I want to pick some up but I need to know if it can be applied over polish Angel high gloss?

Can anybody help me out?
 
I've used BF Midnight Sun over various polishes and AIO's - never Angel Polish specifically - but never had any problems. Is there something special about Angel polish that would suggest it couldn't be topped with a carnauba paste?

ScottH
 
Sure...That'd be applying a
Carnauba Wax atop a Sealant.

Besides that...Why not create
a "different kind of shine"...of
your own accord. :xyxthumbs:


Bob
 
Sure...That'd be applying a
Carnauba Wax atop a Sealant.

Besides that...Why not create
a "different kind of shine"...of
your own accord. :xyxthumbs:


Bob

Is polish angel high gloss not a spray coating anymore? Why do u call it a sealant? I don't mind making a shine of my own but I would rather not use incompatible products.
 
You don't put a carnauba wax over a sio2 quartz or ceramic coating right? I'm not 100% sure on what type of coating can be topped and what coating can't if u don't mind educating me,
 
Topping PA High Gloss would be a waste of a very expensive product IMHO... Why would you want to do that?

If you are using Silica and Titania based products as your protection, stick with those. Does not make much sense to cover it up with a hybrid wax.

If you "must" top the High Gloss, use something like CarPro's Ech20.

You will not hurt anything by doing what you propose, but consider what you paid for that bottle of High Gloss. I would just enjoy the awesome glow of the PA product and leave it alone. (Just my 2¢)
 
Is polish angel high gloss not a
spray coating anymore? Why do
u call it a sealant?
I'm not the only one that calls
High Gloss a Sealant. Polish Angel
does as well:

IMG_26773.JPG


I don't mind making a shine of my
own but I would rather not use
incompatible products.
You don't put a carnauba wax over
a sio2 quartz or ceramic coating right?
I'm not 100% sure on what type of
coating can be topped and what coating
can't if u don't mind educating me,
It seems like you're bringing up
this issue quite a lot...

From what source(s) are you getting
this "incompatibility"; and the "can't/don't"
top so-and-so-products with this-or-that?


Note:
Just as a FYI...99 times out of 100
I do not top/layer an LSP unless it's
with the same exact LSP---(to ensure
total/even coverage, as it were)---not
because of any chance-incompatibility
between LSP products.




Bob
 
Topping PA High Gloss would be a waste of a very expensive product IMHO... Why would you want to do that?

If you are using Silica and Titania based products as your protection, stick with those. Does not make much sense to cover it up with a hybrid wax.

If you "must" top the High Gloss, use something like CarPro's Ech20.

You will not hurt anything by doing what you propose, but consider what you paid for that bottle of High Gloss. I would just enjoy the awesome glow of the PA product and leave it alone. (Just my 2¢)
the warm glow doesn't last forever after a couple weeks it's ready to be topped with something

I'm not the only one that calls
High Gloss a Sealant. Polish Angel
does as well:

IMG_26773.JPG



It seems like you're bringing up
this issue quite a lot...

From what source(s) are you getting
this "incompatibility"; and the "can't/don't"
top so-and-so-products with this-or-that?


Note:
Just as a FYI...99 times out of 100
I do not top/layer an LSP unless it's
with the same exact LSP---(to ensure
total/even coverage, as it were)---not
because of any chance-incompatibility
between LSP products.




Bob
OK they also refer to it as a spray coating. You ask where I get the incompatibility thing from? It's a known thing that a lot of coatings canthe be topped with wax. Why do u think they came out with all these coating sprays. You can't just top most coatings with wax/sealant sprays or quick detailer. I'll look for information on why when I'm home but there is plenty out there on the incompatibility of coating and waxes.

Having said that some coatings are supposedly compatiable with wax. For example mckees coating I heard was compatible and synergy is half a coating half a wax. I keep bringing up the question is because no one can seem to answer it. I want to know if the polish angel high gloss is the type of coating that can be topped or can't be topped. Even polish angel customer service hasn't answered it. I have all wax sealant products in my arsenal besides synergy which obviously can be topped and polish angel high gloss that I'm up in the air with that's why I want to know if it can be topped
 
It's a known thing that a lot of coatings
canthe be topped with wax. Why do u
think they came out with all these coating
sprays. You can't just top most coatings
with wax/sealant sprays or quick detailer.

I'll look for information on why when I'm
home but there is plenty out there on the
incompatibility of coating and waxes.

Having said that some coatings are
supposedly compatiable with wax.
For example mckees coating I heard
was compatible and synergy is half a
coating half a wax.

I want to know if the polish angel
high gloss is the type of coating that
can be topped or can't be topped.
Even polish angel customer
service hasn't answered it.

I have all wax sealant products in my
arsenal besides synergy which obviously
can be topped and polish angel high
gloss that I'm up in the air with that's
why I want to know if it can be topped

IMO:
You're going around the
same circle...but faster.

That's making progress... :dblthumb2:



Bob
 
It doesn't matter what lsp I have on it always looks best after a wash and a nice spray wax
 
Doesn't the freshly applied Spray
Wax now become the actual Last
Step Product?



Bob

I don't think so I think it just adds to it. I feel I put say souveran wax on my car Monday then Friday I wash it and top it with miguiars on Friday the souveran is still there the miguiars just adds to it
 
It be nice if I could figure out what type of coatings can be topped with wax/sealant products and which ones can't. That's all I want to know
 
HG is supposedly the ultimate gloss lsp. Why cover it with a lesser gloss product.
 
It be nice if I could figure out what type of coatings can be topped with wax/sealant products and which ones can't. That's all I want to know

You can, theoretically, top whatever product you want with whatever other product you want. The thing you run into is whatever your literal last product you put on is going to have the most evident properties, such as water behavior, and you'll usually get diminished durability out of whatever it is because it's trying to bond to whatever coating/wax/sealant you're putting it on top of.

As far as getting your answer, all any company or manufacturer is going to say is "for best compatibility use this product from our line, but you should be able to use whatever else, too." You might be expecting too much hoping for anyone to give you a concrete answer or legitimate evidence of it. I just do whatever I feel like and see what kind of results I get.

Why do u think they came out with all these coating sprays

Companies are always going to release specific products like that. Doesn't mean anything, IMO. I use D156 on my coated cars all the time, which nobody anywhere says is directly compatible, however, I get great results. So...
 
You can, theoretically, top whatever product you want with whatever other product you want. The thing you run into is whatever your literal last product you put on is going to have the most evident properties, such as water behavior, and you'll usually get diminished durability out of whatever it is because it's trying to bond to whatever coating/wax/sealant you're putting it on top of.

As far as getting your answer, all any company or manufacturer is going to say is "for best compatibility use this product from our line, but you should be able to use whatever else, too." You might be expecting too much hoping for anyone to give you a concrete answer or legitimate evidence of it. I just do whatever I feel like and see what kind of results I get.



Companies are always going to release specific products like that. Doesn't mean anything, IMO. I use D156 on my coated cars all the time, which nobody anywhere says is directly compatible, however, I get great results. So...

Yeah I know what you mean, I read an article on the miguiars forum explaining the different chemistry and why they aren't compatible I'll try to link it when I get home.

The reason for topping is making it look better. It doesn't matter what you are using the freshly applied look doesn't last
 
It's just like applying Wolfgang sealant and then topping it with souvarn. The sealant looks good on its own but topping is nice too.

And then a few weeks after that you top it with a spray wax. It's the same thing
 
It be nice if I could figure out what type of coatings can be topped with wax/sealant products and which ones can't. That's all I want to know

It varies by the coating and the added product. Some will work, and others will nt play well as far as polymer, or carnuba based products. What does work on everything I have coated and tried, are the coating specific products by polish angel, car pro, gyeon.

It is also dependant on the product you wish to put on top of the coating, as much as the coating itself, so there is no direct answer.

I stick with car pro ech2o mixed ith gyeon. That is an incredible topper for coatings.
 
It varies by the coating and the added product. Some will work, and others will nt play well as far as polymer, or carnuba based products. What does work on everything I have coated and tried, are the coating specific products by polish angel, car pro, gyeon.

It is also dependant on the product you wish to put on top of the coating, as much as the coating itself, so there is no direct answer.

I stick with car pro ech2o mixed ith gyeon. That is an incredible topper for coatings.

I have Synergy tops with the Polish Angel high gloss right now. I want to top it in a couple of weeks with a carnauba wax

I also have the black carnauba arts I want to throw that in her mix at some point
 
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