What goes into a show car paint job?

I wanted to get my front bumper and hood either repainted or blended to fix the road rash. I was hoping it would be like $5-600

For that amount you better be great friends with the guy who owns the body shop, otherwise that's borderline too cheap and you will get what you pay for = crap.

I once payed $1,700 to get the front end on my 92' Cadillac repainted to a perfect White Diamond match and the original quote they gave me was $2,200 to just paint the 2 fenders, hood, and front bumper. And I even brought them a whole nother 92' Eldorado to pick the parts/panels that were needed! Body shop guys are sleasy! But you get what you pay for...
 
Yea you're right. I spoke to my source who's been a Cadillac dealer for 20+ yrs. and he said Cadillac custom paint costs $995.00 and that's the White Diamond or Crystal Red...
My point actually had nothing to do with money. There is no such thing as a factory re-spray. You could use the factory color, but there's only one factory paint job on a car, and that's on the assembly line.


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No such thing as a *factory* $8,000 paint job.


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On a Corvette, no. My buddy's 2013 Ferrari 458 Italia has a $30,000 paint upcharge. It's a very rare red called Rosso Corsa F1 2007
 
My point actually had nothing to do with money. There is no such thing as a factory re-spray.

Who was thinking it would be a factory Re spray?? Nobody. Paint upgrade means they start from scratch, not take an already finished car and re paint it a different color... Why would they even think of doing that?
 
Who was thinking it would be a factory Re spray?? Nobody. Paint upgrade means they start from scratch, not take an already finished car and re paint it a different color... Why would they even think of doing that?
In the add, it says an $8,000 FACTORY paint job. It's NOT a factory paint job. There is only a factory paint job ONCE on a car.
 
In the add, it says an $8,000 FACTORY paint job. It's NOT a factory paint job. There is only a factory paint job ONCE on a car.

How in the world do you know that's not the factory paint job?

It's not beyond the realm of possibility for that car in the pic to have a factory paint job.. Afterall that is what Crystal Red looks like. Lots of Eldorados were sold in that color. As a matter of fact, the last year they sold them [2002] they were only available in 2 colors, that red and White Diamond.

And there's a reason they charge $995.00 for that premium paint option, because it looks distinctively better than the standard paint. At this point it looks like the seller is simply grossly exaggerating the cost of the option. At least he's not asking $8,000 for the car, he's only asking $2,500 which of course means he'll probably take a bit less when the cash is presented.

Very popular color for the Eldorado...

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Plus if someone's going to spend $8,000 on a paint job, why would they choose the same color that you can get straight from the dealer? You wouldn't, you'd spend that money making sure you have it done your own unique way.

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... Heck if he wanted that red to pop like never before all he had to do was call me to go polish it out. I'll gladly take $8,000 and make it shine like never before! Lol.

Just show me the money! :)

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If he's saying the original oem factory paint job that came with it cost 8000 how would he even know that information?

The brochure. Inside the brochures they list every standard and available option, and in some cases they even list the cost of every option too. That would've been the 1st place I would've checked since I do have them, but I wasn't home yesterday.
 
I have *never* heard anyone put a $ amount on an OEM paint. It would be better to put "factory paint option", if it's even OEM.


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If he's saying the original oem factory
paint job that came with it cost 8000
how would he even know that information?
That information is usually listed
on The MONRONEY sticker, or an
addendum thereupon.


Example:
(Not quite $8,000.00...but still
listed as a paint upgrade option)

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Bob
 
Exactly. The same way you can easily find out if a Mercedes has Ceramiclear without having to pull out your inspection light. Cmon man things are simple not hard :)
 
I have *never* heard anyone put a $ amount on an OEM paint. It would be better to put "factory paint option", if it's even OEM.


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Welcome to the difference between a Cadillac being sold in the ghetto vs. a properly maintained creampuff being exchanged between the original owner and respectable buyer...

If this Caddy was a creampuff the description would state "factory paint option" and the person reading it would begin to connect the dots with the much higher price and low miles and begin to see that the car has been well maintained and still has a good chance of being a rare survivor that could be in mint condition.

Not too many cars have quite as much range as Cadillacs do... Meaning the potential buyers range anywhere from young ghetto wanna be pimp, all the way up to distinguished gentleman who parks in a climate controlled garage every day. The cool thing is when you see both sides of the spectrum unite at a carshow and discover their strong common bond. That's the great thing about cars :)
 
I never did any $30,000 paint jobs... but I did do $10,000 jobs back in the 1970's through 1990's. The man-hours involved where in the hundreds... 200-300 hours or more were not uncommon.

Makes sense that would be a 30k job today. 300 hours at current shop rate at $95and hour ( which is a low rate) adds up fast


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It's been about 20 years since I've done any serious painting but my process went something like this...

- Remove all moldings and trim
- Strip old finish to bare metal
- Perform necessary body repairs
- Chemically treat metal surfaces
- Apply maximum corrosion resistance primer, i.e., epoxy, self-etching, etc.
- Apply primer surfacer
- Block sand (and I use that term loosely... whatever tool is necessary to achieve a perfect surface and it's not always a block)
- Repeat the primer surfacer and block sanding steps (typically at least three cycles) (different shades of primer can be used to help highlight imperfections)
- Apply Sealer
- Apply the color coats
- Sand between coats when appropriate (this is dictated by the type of finish being applied) (do not sand the final color coat especially if it's a metallic color)
- Apply the clear coats
- Like the color coats, sand between when appropriate
- Allow the paint to fully harden (typically 60 days minimum)
- Sand and polish to perfection

Note that all finish sanding, whether body repairs, primer surfacer, color or clear coats are done by hand as that is the most accurate method. In fact when I read about colorsanding/wetsanding with a DA it makes me cringe. Although with today's grits, i.e., 3000, 5000, etc. machine sanding might be feasible, hand sanding is still the most accurate method to the perfect panel in my opinion.

This is just a quick synopsis off the top of my head... It's been a while. There are many more steps sometimes performed. An example could be completely disassembling the vehicle after the body fit has been established to paint the car in pieces. That is the best way to ensure the jambs are as perfect as the exterior and to minimize any unwanted overspray where it shouldn't be and also to eliminate any paint build-up in panel-to-panel seams.

I never did any $30,000 paint jobs... but I did do $10,000 jobs back in the 1970's through 1990's. The man-hours involved where in the hundreds... 200-300 hours or more were not uncommon.
300 hours? Wow. That is just insane.

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