micro marring after polishing

[WRAPT C5Z06]

IMO and experience over the years I don't believe it's at all related to M205; not unless the bottle has been contaminated. I would say the culprit is likely in either your pad (dirty or too stiff for Nissan paint) or your removal cloth/technique. Not sure I have an answer for you if you've tried to rule out those factors.

M205 can definitely struggle on *soft black* paint(ask Mike Phillips). In this case, I don't think it's the M205. IME, Nissan paint is nice to work with. It's not too soft or hard. Plus, the paint is not black, so it should be more forgiving. Are you located near Los Angeles?

 

[dlc95]

Pics embedded into AG always appear small in size thus even with my glasses it's hard to see due to resolution. That said, have you tried a white polishing pad?

Yeah, I'm no good at the AG pic loader thing. I used to be able to load them into my album, but that doesn't even work for me anymore.

And yes, I've used both the LC, and B&S white pads. I prefer them with AIO type products. I like the Blue Buff and Shine for final polishing. If I need something stronger I use the Tangerine LC Hydrotech, which is actually what I use for maximum gloss. It's stiffer than the blue, but really refines the paint to high levels. With M205, and especially SF4000.

The new orange HDO is really nice too. It's about the same density and pore structure as the yellow Rupes pad.

 

[Finick]

IMO and experience over the years I don't believe it's at all related to M205; not unless the bottle has been contaminated. I would say the culprit is likely in either your pad (dirty or too stiff for Nissan paint) or your removal cloth/technique. Not sure I have an answer for you if you've tried to rule out those factors.

I've considered it could be the pads I'm using, considering the only ones I have available are mf discs, and meguiars yellow polishing and black finishing pads. I can't imagine it would be a dirty pad because the first section I polished out after priming showed the marring. I was using some fairly plush chemical guys towels (name of them escapes me. they're an obnoxious green, they were a gift from a relative) that feel pretty high quality.

I was doing some testing on our rental car last year. M205 did a great job on it. I was using the black Buff and Shine microfiber finishing pads. The gloss was crazy. I wasn't expecting that from a fiber pad.

That finish looks great. Is that fiber pad primed?

M205 can definitely struggle on *soft black* paint(ask Mike Phillips). In this case, I don't think it's the M205. IME, Nissan paint is nice to work with. It's not too soft or hard. Plus, the paint is not black, so it should be more forgiving. Are you located near Los Angeles?

It's worth pointing out that the finish doesn't look bad, I can't stress that enough. I have to try to see the marring, and it's only visible under certain lighting conditions. I simply want to find the reason for the slight marring, and either modify my technique or products I'm using so that when I do polish it in the future, I can finish it down as close as I can to perfect. Just for self satisfaction.

Yeah, I'm no good at the AG pic loader thing. I used to be able to load them into my album, but that doesn't even work for me anymore.

And yes, I've used both the LC, and B&S white pads. I prefer them with AIO type products. I like the Blue Buff and Shine for final polishing. If I need something stronger I use the Tangerine LC Hydrotech, which is actually what I use for maximum gloss. It's stiffer than the blue, but really refines the paint to high levels. With M205, and especially SF4000.

The new orange HDO is really nice too. It's about the same density and pore structure as the yellow Rupes pad.

I may have to look into these buff and shine pads and LC pads, I see people mention them all the time

 

[dlc95]

Yes, that B&S microfiber pad had been primed, but I'm learning that those particular pads don't need it as much as the megs, lc, and Uro-Fiber pads do. I actually prefer the original B&S microfiber to the Uro-Fiber.

Another advantage is that they brush out much easier than competing mf pads.

 

[WRAPT C5Z06]

Most quality polishes will finish very good on anything but soft black paint. Few can. On REALLY soft black paint, it may not be possible to finish without any marring. Scholl S30+ is the best finishing polish I've ever used.


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[Finick]

Just thought I'd update this thread. Pinnacle advanced swirl remover managed to finish the paint down the way I was hoping for. I have a picture attached showing the difference in the finish.

I'm not sure why m205 was marring the paint the way it was. The area on the right was actually polished down with a polishing pad first, and then I followed it with a finishing pad. So it's not nearly as marred up as it was at first.

In either case, maybe m205 just isn't right for my paint, pinnacle seemed to work beautifully with no issues.

 

[greedi]

Hi Finick, just wondering will the marring come back after a few washes or over time?

 

[Finick]

Hi Finick, just wondering will the marring come back after a few washes or over time?

I'm pretty careful with how I wash my car, so hopefully not too many swirls or scratches pop up over the winter. The marring on the right of that picture is actually, from what I can tell, from M205. I really don't know why it was happening, considering how many variations of pressure, number of passes, and using a polishing and a finishing pad.

I'm willing to admit I'm not the most skilled with a polisher, but using the same firm pressure for the first couple passes with the pinnacle polish as I did with 205, then backing off the speed a little (4800 to 3800 opm) and easing up on the pressure (no idea if that was beneficial, but it's just my car i'm playing with so I was willing to work it a little longer at a lower speed) produced the finished I desired.

edit: also forgot to mention I don't believe the pinnacle polish has any fillers in it, so the finish I saw after wiping residue away should be pretty accurate.

 

[DaveT435]

Someone on here was working on soft black Porche paint. That paint is notoriously extremely soft. He tried several combinations. It ended up being Optimum Hyoer Polish and a black finishing polish that did the trick. I've used this combo on black Acura paint which should be along the same line as Nissan, provided it's not extremely hard like a couple of black Nissan/Infinitys I've worked on. The Honda/Acuras turned out incredible with this combo.

 

[Finick]

Someone on here was working on soft black Porche paint. That paint is notoriously extremely soft. He tried several combinations. It ended up being Optimum Hyoer Polish and a black finishing polish that did the trick. I've used this combo on black Acura paint which should be along the same line as Nissan, provided it's not extremely hard like a couple of black Nissan/Infinitys I've worked on. The Honda/Acuras turned out incredible with this combo.

I was actually looking into Optimum Hyper Polish. Before I pulled the trigger on anything I kind of just watered down my 205 because it seemed like a similar concept, but it didn't really accomplish anything significant.

 

[DaveT435]

I was actually looking into Optimum Hyper Polish. Before I pulled the trigger on anything I kind of just watered down my 205 because it seemed like a similar concept, but it didn't really accomplish anything significant.

It seems like HyperPolish uses chemicals to cut also. I haven't read that or checked the MSDS sheet to verify that so I can't say it's fact. The amount of difference in cut by changing pads makes it seem that way. HyperPolish was the first polish I bought, I've probably bought 20 others since, and I still use it about twice as often as all others combined.

 

[Finick]

It seems like HyperPolish uses chemicals to cut also. I haven't read that or checked the MSDS sheet to verify that so I can't say it's fact. The amount of difference in cut by changing pads makes it seem that way. HyperPolish was the first polish I bought, I've probably bought 20 others since, and I still use it about twice as often as all others combined.

That's interesting, and would make sense. Maybe next time I need some polish I'll grab a bottle to try out