Sealant comparison

[01AUDI]

From Collinite:

1. No.476s – most durable protection/weather defense. Most elbow grease required during application.

2. No. 915- 2nd most durable and slightly easier than the 476s to apply/remove. No. 915 lends our warmest shine to dark tones like navy and black due to its highest concentration of rare carnauba.

3. No. 845- easiest of the 3 to apply/remove with slightly less durability than the No. 915.​

I love your threads and keep reading over them to learn more stuff every time but would be interested to hear if you could tell or rate their UV protection ability ? I have seen that FK1000 is suppose to have great UV protection but you have rated its protection slightly under 845, so it would be nice to see if one of the collinite waxes has the same or better UV protection, since they may have better overall protection as well.

 

[RippyD]

Thanks for the compliment. But...please don't confuse me with any of the pros here. I have no idea what I'm doing regarding detailing or paint protection. I'm just some random jackass on the internet who likes to collect data and measure things. I don't know how to measure UV protection. Happy to try if there's a way to do this.

 

[Cruzscarwash]

Thanks for the compliment. But...please don't confuse me with any of the pros here. I have no idea what I'm doing regarding detailing or paint protection. I'm just some random jackass on the internet who likes to collect data and measure things. I don't know how to measure UV protection. Happy to try if there's a way to do this.

While this made me LOL, I wouldn't go that far, these test provide great insight for the users that come her for information. This is a great test, I ruined mine by being lazy and killed off all the sealants... oops

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[RippyD]

I noticed no more updates but wasn't sure why. You killed them by using a pressure washer or something else? If that's it I think the results would still be valid. Have ordered can coat.

 

[Cruzscarwash]

No, I was lazy and just grabbed my spray bottle of d114 that I use for wheels that's mixed 1/31 and after using that to wash they all died except can coat. I tried to use some other soaps like reset to see if I could save them but they all fell flat. I do need to update the post though I keep forgetting

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[RippyD]

Very interesting. I know many here will insist that a prep dilution of N-914 won't remove a sealant. It could be that your sealants were all on the way out and that D114 just helped them along a little.

Opportunity for somebody to confirm this. Two areas with the same sealant applied, wash one a few times with rinseless concentration and the other with something stronger and see what happens.

 

[Cruzscarwash]

Very interesting. I know many here will insist that a prep dilution of N-914 won't remove a sealant. It could be that your sealants were all on the way out and that D114 just helped them along a little.

Opportunity for somebody to confirm this. Two areas with the same sealant applied, wash one a few times with rinseless concentration and the other with something stronger and see what happens.

I've read that d114 mixed to strong can/will remove your LSP. It's still debated but I think a Meg's rep is the one that brought it up.

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[RippyD]

Scorecard to date below. Some of these were a challenge to judge due to the testing gap I had around Thanksgiving. A couple also have longer duration than I originally thought because they got revived with clay or Carpro Reset. I called them "done" when I couldn't see any water performance difference between the product and taped off areas. This may not be accurate but is what I can measure visually.

Disclaimer: These results are what I got in my environment and won't reflect what others will see. I'm hoping it's a demonstration of relative longevity.

1 Week
Blackfire Polymer Spray
Griots One Step Sealant

2 weeks
Blackfire Crystal Seal (2-3 weeks)
Chemical Guys V07 (2-3 weeks)

3 Weeks
Mystery Sealant 1
Sonus Acrylic Glanz
Sonus Acrylic Spritz
Optimum Car Wax (3-4 weeks)

4 Weeks
Aquawax
Polish Angel Cosmic Spritz
Sonus Ion
Paint Guard+ (4-5 weeks)
Carpro Reload (4-5 weeks)

5 weeks
Optimum Optiseal

6 Weeks
Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant

8-10 weeks
Duragloss 105 + DG 601

TBD
Collinite 845 (> 12 weeks)
Duragloss 111 + DG 601 (> 12 weeks)
Finish Kare 1000 + DG 601 (> 12 weeks)
Track Claw + DG 601 (> 12 weeks)
Sonax PNS (> 12 weeks - this one was at ~10 weeks and came back after claying)
Future Armour (> 3 weeks)
McKee's 360 (> 3 weeks)
Mystery Sealant 2 (> 3 weeks)
Mystery Sealant 3 (> 3 weeks)

 

[Cruzscarwash]

Scorecard to date below. Some of these were a challenge to judge due to the testing gap I had around Thanksgiving. A couple also have longer duration than I originally thought because they got revived with clay or Carpro Reset. I called them "done" when I couldn't see any water performance difference between the product and taped off areas. This may not be accurate but is what I can measure visually.

Disclaimer: These results are what I got in my environment and won't reflect what others will see. I'm hoping it's a demonstration of relative longevity.

1 Week
Blackfire Polymer Spray
Griots One Step Sealant

2 weeks
Blackfire Crystal Seal (2-3 weeks)
Chemical Guys V07 (2-3 weeks)

3 Weeks
Mystery Sealant 1
Sonus Acrylic Glanz
Sonus Acrylic Spritz
Optimum Car Wax (3-4 weeks)

4 Weeks
Aquawax
Polish Angel Cosmic Spritz
Sonus Ion
Paint Guard+ (4-5 weeks)
Carpro Reload (4-5 weeks)

5 weeks
Optimum Optiseal

6 Weeks
Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant

8-10 weeks
Duragloss 105 + DG 601

TBD
Collinite 845 (> 12 weeks)
Duragloss 111 + DG 601 (> 12 weeks)
Finish Kare 1000 + DG 601 (> 12 weeks)
Track Claw + DG 601 (> 12 weeks)
Sonax PNS (> 12 weeks - this one was at ~10 weeks and came back after claying)
Future Armour (> 3 weeks)
McKee's 360 (> 3 weeks)
Mystery Sealant 2 (> 3 weeks)
Mystery Sealant 3 (> 3 weeks)

Is it still there after clay? Or is the beading from the results of clay?? I would imagine that clay will pull off many/most protections like these.

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[RippyD]

PNS would almost have to still be working. The sealants on the white hood were all done except for the ones on the right side. So I clayed the left 2/3 - there was nothing to lose. The only one that started sheeting water again was Sonax PNS. It may have removed some of the sealant. It seems to have also removed contaminants that were keeping it from sheeting. I can't say why it worked for PNS and nothing else.

I'm guessing here and am all ears if there's a different or better explanation.

 

[SWETM]

What clay and claylube did you use?

How is your washing routine during this test? And what kind of products did you use both schampo and wash media and decon products?

Interesting longevity test. Thanks for shareing your result.

 

[RippyD]

Clay and lube: Fine clay mitt (Nanoskin?) and McKee's N-914 at clay lube dilution (128:1, if I recall).

Washing routine is to wash before I do a hose test. Always with N-914 at rinseless or waterless concentration, except for the times I noted that I used Carpro Reset at 500:1. Wash media is a white, very dense MF towel. Most of my washes are rinseless so the MF towel is saturated with wash media. The last time I used Reset on the white hood I used a couple of MF wash mitts.

 

[RippyD]

Constant and heavy rain since the last update until the 13th when I took these pictures. It was sunny and relatively warm (60 degrees).

Sentra hood behaving the same as it did a couple of weeks ago. Washed the hood with McKee's N-914 at Waterless concentration before taking the hose to it.

Immediately after hitting it with the hose. MS2, MS3, and Future Armour doing well.

A minute or so later: McKee's 360 still working, but slower than the other three.

On the Rover hood Collinite 845 still doing best, FK1000 a little behind it, Track Claw, DG 111, and Sonax PNS are all slowing down and I assume are close to the end.

Pic of the right side immediately after hitting it with water. You can water is gone from the far right (845), about 50% gone from FK1000, and moving more slowly than FK1000 for Track Claw and DG 111.

Sonax PNS doing about the same as Track Claw and DG 111. Notice there is some water clearing off the DG 105 and WG DGS areas as well. I may have called these done too early. After claying two weeks ago and some warmer weather they seem to have a little activity left. I'll try to check this again today when I have more time and it's less bright out.

 

[01AUDI]

845 is beating fk1000 ?!! interesting, and nice reviews.
when do we find out what the mystery sealants are ?

 

[RippyD]

Don't know. The first one sucked so I'm not sure there's much value in sharing it. The other two I'm testing blind. I'll leave it up to Cruz to determine when and if to share.

EDIT: And yes, big surprise about FK1000 and Collinite. Maybe application differences? Once I get through all the products I have to test I'll likely redo the top ones with some variables, such as multiple coats, with and without DG 601, and whatever else could be a factor.

But I'm with you, 845 is surprising me. The DG stuff is doing less well then I've seen before as well. So many variables here it's hard to know. While I maybe didn't apply these as well as pro would have, I think my results are representative of what the average non-pro here would get.

 

[Cruzscarwash]

Don't know. The first one sucked so I'm not sure there's much value in sharing it. The other two I'm testing blind. I'll leave it up to Cruz to determine when and if to share.

While I'd love to share they are not carried by AG but wanted to see how they compare against these top contenders. When they die out I'll try to figure out something if anyone wants to know what they are.

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[RippyD]

Me too. Not trying to be secretive but also want to respect the rules of the forum. Maybe we post them on the sister site? We'll figure something out. I have a few more left to test so it'll be a while before I'm done.

 

[RippyD]

Some interesting developments. The history since the last update is mostly heavy rain with a few clear days. I washed both hoods with McKee's N-914 at waterless concentration before testing. It was about 55 degrees out when I did this test.

I mentioned last time that I believe there could be some temperature sensitivity to some of these products. At this temp a few products seem to be working again. I'm getting action from DG 105, 111, and Track Claw. Of these three, the Track Claw is doing the best and is now behaving comparably to FK1000. Collinite 845 still leading the pack in terms of sheeting water quickly.

In terms of shedding water quickly, 845 doing the best, then FK1000, Sonax PNS, and Track Claw all a little behind. DG 111 and DG 105 working but more slowly than the others. This is confusing things a little. What's very clear is that 845, Sonax PNS, and FK1000 continue to perform well.

Sentra hood doing the same as last time. Mystery sealants and Future Armour still performing well.

 

[Cruzscarwash]

I've been thinking of trying out PNS again but applying with different methods. Your testing is making that urge stronger..lol

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[RippyD]

Here's how this looks so far with sealant duration graphed. The resolution is limited to when I tested. I made a couple of judgement calls to between testing dates. The steps between products are due to when I tested. Some of these had shorter durations than shown.

Please remember that these are relative measurements - your absolute durations for each product will likely be different. The 5 at the top are still going. A couple will be done soon.

EDIT: circle data points are done, triangles are still going.