i am disappointed from my 21 MK2

Using a Rupes is like using straight non synchronized gearbox, olnce you master it, it is faster. Forced rotation is like synchronized gearbox, it is slower but easier to use. I also have a 15 and 21 mk2 and no problem with stalling at all. However i had one 15 mk2 which had bad stalling so it was defective unit.
 
Todd@RUPES said:
If we freeze the rotational movement, large-diameter random orbital polishers like the 21 will still produce more movement across the entire diameter of the pad than most gear-driven polishers do at full RPM.
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A bit hard to believe, but I trust you.
 
Joel1979 said:
Using a Rupes is like using straight non synchronized gearbox, olnce you master it, it is faster. Forced rotation is like synchronized gearbox, it is slower but easier to use. I also have a 15 and 21 mk2 and no problem with stalling at all. However i had one 15 mk2 which had bad stalling so it was defective unit.
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The best detailers I’ve trained are the ones that had a natural talent for long throws, the hobbyists or mediocre detailers always went the other route and its easy to identify between them on this site too.
 
Ronin47 said:
The best detailers I’ve trained are the ones that had a natural talent for long throws, the hobbyists or mediocre detailers always went the other route and its easy to identify between them on this site too.
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So no good detailers use a 3401? Now yer pushing it. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA You funny
 
Ronin47 said:
The best detailers I’ve trained are the ones that had a natural talent for long throws, the hobbyists or mediocre detailers always went the other route and its easy to identify between them on this site too.
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One one hand, I totally understand, on the other, there are some pretty good paint poiishers using the 3401.

I have to admit that I'm surprised how few of them are used in the shops where I'm from.

Two of the most notable detail shops in my area use Rupes 21s.

One shop has a 3401, but no one really uses it. The detailer I hire to assist on big jobs has one too, but he never really brings it. He usually brings the Rupes 21, and the PC 7424xp.

I do like the 3401 though. Great for cleaner waxes, and one step polishing. For heavier correction I prefer the random orbital.
 
Ronin47 said:
The best detailers I’ve trained are the ones that had a natural talent for long throws, the hobbyists or mediocre detailers always went the other route and its easy to identify between them on this site too.
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And you went out and got yourself a Mille? grin...

Tom
 
Lol. Butt hurt when you try and talk bad about a product, like it's yer baby? No, yer the baby crying that someone else doesn't agree with your opinion. Lol ha ha ha ha
 
All I have to do to get YOU to THINK I'm a good detailer is buy a 21mk2? Well I'm gonna get myself one for Christmas so I can be one of the cool kids!!!!!!!!!! All I come here for is your approval man and finally you told me how to get it! THANK YOU AND HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! I'll send you the receipt when I buy it buddy, pal, confidant. Oh goodie goodie, I can't wait till Xmas now!!!
 
aderet


try this video from rupes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR8puD3Mko8&index=82&list=WL

I have a mk11 15 & I'm just getting the hang of it. exactly what everyone is saying Keep it Flat. I notice when i was bearing down to much or holding it on an angle it would stop spinning. if i need to get in a tight spot I lift up a little & pay attention to the rotation. good luck.
hmardown
 
TMQ said:
And you went out and got yourself a Mille? grin...

Tom
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I not only have the Mille, but two 3401’s too. A good detailer is well versed on all machines, a great detailer is one whos mastered the long throw.
 
dlc95 said:
One one hand, I totally understand, on the other, there are some pretty good paint poiishers using the 3401.

I have to admit that I'm surprised how few of them are used in the shops where I'm from.

Two of the most notable detail shops in my area use Rupes 21s.

One shop has a 3401, but no one really uses it. The detailer I hire to assist on big jobs has one too, but he never really brings it. He usually brings the Rupes 21, and the PC 7424xp.

I do like the 3401 though. Great for cleaner waxes, and one step polishing. For heavier correction I prefer the random orbital.
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In Europe, Africa and the East, almost every hardcore pro, underground, celeb, private facebook group detailers all exclusively use the 21 MKII. Theres a bunch of us who hookup every few months for social meets and discuss the future of Detailing etc. and every single one is now a 21 MKII user and a master at it. I don’t even know if Rupes knows what a cult following the 21 MKII has in the hardcore Detailing scene.
 
Ronin47 said:
I not only have the Mille, but two 3401’s too. A good detailer is well versed on all machines, a great detailer is one whos mastered the long throw.
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So before the long throw was invented, there could not have been any great detailers...
Ok, bud.
 
Rmd said:
So before the long throw was invented, there could not have been any great detailers...
Ok, bud.
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We talking present, in the past the 3401 was a step up from the PC. I notice theres alot of selective reading.
 
Ronin47 said:
We talking present, in the past the 3401 was a step up from the PC. I notice theres alot of selective reading.
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I pointed out the extension of your statement. Which would be the opposite of selective.
 
Ronin47 said:
In Europe, Africa and the East, almost every hardcore pro, underground, celeb, private facebook group detailers all exclusively use the 21 MKII. Theres a bunch of us who hookup every few months for social meets and discuss the future of Detailing etc. and every single one is now a 21 MKII user and a master at it. I don’t even know if Rupes knows what a cult following the 21 MKII has in the hardcore Detailing scene.
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Wow, this is interesting! Did not realize that! Learn something every day!

Tom
 
It's never wrong to learn something new if it's true, but and now I'm talking about Europe, many people use, for example, Das 6 pro plus and similiar machines.
One reason, and this is especially true for Scandinaven is the price of Rupes, a Rupes 21mm mk2 costs about $ 650, it seems that they do not want me to buy Rupes, so I have chosen other brands.
But many also think that Rupes are weak compared to 900w-1200w machines.
 
Ronin47 said:
In Europe, Africa and the East, almost every hardcore pro, underground, celeb, private facebook group detailers all exclusively use the 21 MKII. Theres a bunch of us who hookup every few months for social meets and discuss the future of Detailing etc. and every single one is now a 21 MKII user and a master at it. I don’t even know if Rupes knows what a cult following the 21 MKII has in the hardcore Detailing scene.
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Doing work for a friend last summer, I used his 21mk2. Now, he typically uses rotary with wool and m100 as a cuttting step, so I tried to stick to his process.

But then he asked me to take the 21mk2 for a spin. It was modded, fitted with a 5" plate, and a Meguiar's xtra cut disc. I used the M100 compound .

I think I was on speed 2. I was actually apprehensive about proceeding with it. In my hands, it cut faster than the rotary. It was a demon. But you have to consider that I prefer the original PC 7424, and the Duetto. I'm not used to an orbital with that much power.
 
dlc95 said:
Doing work for a friend last summer, I used his 21mk2. Now, he typically uses rotary with wool and m100 as a cuttting step, so I tried to stick to his process.

But then he asked me to take the 21mk2 for a spin. It was modded, fitted with a 5" plate, and a Meguiar's xtra cut disc. I used the M100 compound .

I think I was on speed 2. I was actually apprehensive about proceeding with it. In my hands, it cut faster than the rotary. It was a demon. But you have to consider that I prefer the original PC 7424, and the Duetto. I'm not used to an orbital with that much power.
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I use the 21 MKII with a Kamakazi Beast 5” bp, Megs Xtra Cut MF and M101 to do what no rotary could, we shared a very similar experience there. I have yet to try CarPro Clear Cut with that setup, hmm you got me thinking.
 
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