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Review: 3D ONE Hybrid Cutting Compound and Finishing Polish
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Eldorado2k
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Assuming he used Megs Ultimate Wheel Cleaner, what’s the big difference between those 2 products?
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Some iron removing wheel cleaners don’t go after just iron. A better comparison would have been between IronX and Gyeon Iron. Also, you don’t compare an AIO to a non-AIO.
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So I guess that makes the more affordable Meguiars Ultimate Wheel Cleaner twice as good as Gyeon Iron? Lol.
And I hear you in regards to the Non AIO vs. AIO, but I wasn’t talking about that.
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They are completely different products. An iron remover can be used on wheels sure, but it’s sole purpose is to remove iron, it isn’t a cleaner. Wheel cleaners typically have iron removers in them because that is primarily what most brake pads have in them, but they also have cleansers that clean general dirt and grime which iron iron removers DONT have.
Jimbo does this with a lot of videos, he compares dissimilar products that have different price points and gives a total shadetree analysis. A lot of what he does, doesn’t even emulate real world comparisons. He did a “cheap versus expensive” drying towel comparison and the towels weren’t even the same size towel....
3D One and HD Speed are different products. They aren’t marketed as similar products nor should they be compared as such.
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If that’s the case, then why do so many people [i.e. on youtube] seem to believe that IronX is the optimal product to use for cleaning their wheels? If normL wheel cleaners are effective at removing iron particles, then why do so many people use IronX on their wheels?
I could be wrong, but from my experience the only kind of wheel cleaners that are effective at completely removing iron particles besides the dedicated iron removers such as IronX and the rest of the color changing products are acid based wheel cleaners.
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I have used ironX on my wheels, it’s still not a wheel cleaner. Conversely, I’m not using Adams Wheel Cleaner on my paint. Both have the chemical that removed iron in them. You can use a car wash soap to clean wheels just like you can use a specific wheel cleaner, windex, Dawn etc. doesn’t mean they are as effective and it doesn’t mean they are specifically made for the way you are using it.
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If the main purpose of this thread is to pile on and bash Jimbo, I simply don’t agree with that.. The dude is cool in my book + he’s out there detailing full time + taking the time to make content for fellow detailers to view. Is he going to please everyone on every vid he makes? No. But that’s alright it’s not the end of the world..
You should be thankful he even takes the time out of his busy day to even try and think about More detailing related stuff when the fact is most professional detailers would rather think of anything but detailing when they’re done for the day.
Cut the guy some slack. Or lets see some of y’all start pumping out some detailing videos on youtube for us to critique.
You should be thankful he even takes the time out of his busy day to even try and think about More detailing related stuff when the fact is most professional detailers would rather think of anything but detailing when they’re done for the day.
Cut the guy some slack. Or lets see some of y’all start pumping out some detailing videos on youtube for us to critique.
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If the main purpose of this thread is to pile on and bash Jimbo, I simply don’t agree with that.. The dude is cool in my book + he’s out there detailing full time + taking the time to make content for fellow detailers to view. Is he going to please everyone on every vid he makes? No. But that’s alright it’s not the end of the world..
You should be thankful he even takes the time out of his busy day to even try and think about More detailing related stuff when the fact is most professional detailers would rather think of anything but detailing when they’re done for the day.
Cut the guy some slack. Or lets see some of y’all start pumping out some detailing videos on youtube for us to critique.
Ok you love his videos, that’s great. I watch his videos, I enjoy some of them. But whether I like them or not doesn’t change the fact that he doesn’t even use the products properly that he’s trying to compare. If you can get your inspiration from him that’s great. It doesn’t change that he isn’t using products properly then making a conclusion based on the way he used it.
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Their concept behind removing chemical "paint softeners", and relying on the abrasive to cut is really intriguing. So is the ceramics added to the aluminum.
With the Speed, it's a huge deal.
I wonder if the HD One dusts less than M100?
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I use DUB Wheel Cleaner exclusively on my paint. I never use it on my wheels.
Why? Because it makes economical sense + it just flat out works. Not to mention it doesn’t stink like rotten eggs.
And this bottle of Megs Ultimate Wheel Cleaner has only been used on 1 wheel for testing purposes... The rest has been strictly used on paint. DUB works better though.
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I use DUB Wheel Cleaner exclusively on my paint. I never use it on my wheels.
Why? Because it makes economical sense + it just flat out works. Not to mention it doesn’t stink like rotten eggs.
And this bottle of Megs Ultimate Wheel Cleaner has only been used on 1 wheel for testing purposes... The rest has been strictly used on paint. DUB works better though.
Cool beans.
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Aight. Lol
I think that the concentration of the iron remover chemical is a bit less in a wheel cleaner vs dedicated iron removers.
Have don't seen the Megs All Wheel Cleaner vs Gyeon Iron. Witch did best at removing iron particals on the paint?
Saw a video when he compared cheap clay disc vs Sonax clay disc. And straight from the box to the paint. Then the Sonax clay disc didn't do well. That's why he did not break it in on the glass first. And would be written to how to use it on the box. So that test was a completly no test. And often a clay alternative has to be broken in on the glass first to get the protective layer off. If not doing that with some clay alternatives you can have an unpleasant surprise with scratching the heck out of your paint. Most and not all do this and that's why many has dismissed them because of they scratched the paint for them.
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I mean you kinda proved my point. You absolutely can use an iron centric based wheel cleaner on paint. Hell go use it around your house to remove iron deposits, it will work, just like IronX will work. Doesn't mean that by using a wheel cleaner on your paint, you aren't possibly putting chemicals on your paint that are harsh, or more of a concern to me, leaving something behind. I prefer to use products for their intended purpose, which is why I have a dedicated wheel cleaner, and an iron decon remover. In the end, use what works for you, if DUB is your jam, that's awesome. But its my opinion, and I could be totally alone on this, that if you are going to showcase and compare a product, you should use it for its intended purpose and if it has other uses, you can prove WHY it won't harm other surfaces by using it.
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He didn't use them on paint, he used them on wheels, and spoiler alert, the wheel cleaner worked on wheels, but it happened to be cheaper, so the cheaper product was "better"
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Update on ONE....so I received a shinemate black diamond yellow cutting pad and teamed it up with ONE on the soft black paint I’ve been working on. I gotta say, this combo removed a decent amount of defects and finished GREAT for a cutting pad on soft paint. I then followed it up with the shinemate black diamond red finishing pad. Finished better, but still left a little haze behind. So, ONE should do very well on medium to hard paint. It’s oily upon wipe off, especially if overused, but the initial residue wipes off easy.
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Actually, ONE is great to CUT on soft black paint, but you’ll want to finish with something else. 
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Sounds good Mark!
I just placed my order for One, Polish +, Cut +, and Poxy.
I'm gonna take a leap into some of these higher end ACA liquids too in the near future.
I'm really digging 3D's concept on abrasives.
We'll see.
I also hope to find something that dusts less than M100.
I just placed my order for One, Polish +, Cut +, and Poxy.
I'm gonna take a leap into some of these higher end ACA liquids too in the near future.
I'm really digging 3D's concept on abrasives.
We'll see.
I also hope to find something that dusts less than M100.
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Awesome, Dan!
They're all nice products. You're very familiar with non-diminishing abrasives, so these are all up your alley. Although, they definitely have a different polishing feel than Meg's SMAT polishes. HD Polish+ is bubba proof and finishes very well. I don't have a ton of experience with Cut+, but the times I tried it, I liked it. Currently, My main focus with 3D polishes is ONE. I haven't used it a ton, but I'm liking it more an more. A little really goes a long way! I haven't experienced dust so far. It's give a real nice buffing feel. Good lubrication. Does not dry out. I really haven't put its cutting ability to the test, as I've only used it on soft black paint. It does leave an oily residue(like some Menzerna) upon wipe-off, so I'm going to try using less and see what happens. I am huge fan of non-diminshing abrasives, but I do not have one single Meg's polish in my arsenal(anymore). I find 3D polishes easier to work with.
Please let us know your thoughts!!!!!
FWIW, my current favorite all around polish is Sonax Perfect Finish!!!!!!