Renny Doyle Beadmaker Revisited - 2month Standalone Review

[bob m]

Did I miss the reviews of Beadmaker stating it lasts a long time Its pretty established that Beadmaker makes the paint glossy and slick, durability about a month if all the planets line up, LOL. So in closing, what did I miss again?

I checked my post over and don't see any reason to report it to a moderator, thank you

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As far as I'm concerned longevity was not thee issue, it was the beading and as mentioned I saw no difference in beading and gloss between that and others I used. Now admittedly I only applied it 2 times, that's what I based my opinion on so maybe as stated by Eldorado2k, it's something that will build up over time and applications - good to know!

 

[Eldorado2k]

Now admittedly I only applied it 2 times, that's what I based my opinion on so maybe as stated by Eldorado2k, it's something that will build up over time and applications - good to know!

For me there’s no doubt about it... Another thing I’ve noticed is that I’m not using loads of it the way I initially was. I think I went through almost 64oz. within the 1st 4 times I used it... But as you can see by how much I’ve used in 2 months, it’s really not much since that initial heavy application, and it wasn’t necessarily by plan, I simply let the feel dictate how much I use and lately it’s not as much as before.

 

[Ochnob]

Eldo,
Good review. I think it depends on criteria when determining something’s longevity. Environment also plays a role. I think when most people talk about the durability of a product it is in terms of how long the beading performance/ self cleaning ability lasts. While I live in NC I did help start a company out in LA (Woodland Hills) for 8 months several years ago. Rain is certainly something you don’t have to worry about in LA. But that air and contaminants certainly are. It’s like breathing while sucking on a furnace out there. Lol. Here in NC I judge longevity by how long a single application of a product still performs throughout constant rain and other weather.
I could see how BM would be the perfect LSP for your area and other dry areas of the country. It’s extremely slick and does seem to form a hard barrier with its hardening components of the product. I could see how it would perform better in a baggie test than a lot of other products out there.
I still use BM even though I feel as though it is not the longest lasting(beading) product out there. I use BM during the spring/summer building up an nice base and use Sonax BSD over that in the winter when I don’t wash my vehicle as much.
Here is a comparison of the BSD and BM single application after one month.

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[Klasse Act]

BSD should actually be called Bead Maker and Beadmaker should be called, well, something else...sorry if this offends someone, just my opinion and since these are both sold here it's ok, right

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[Finick]

What? Has someone hacked your account?lol.

As far as Beadmaker, IMO it’s not something that’s going to wow you after 1 use. [which is why some youtube reviews of it make certain people look like complete shills]

Haha no, no hacking.

Truthfully though, the reviews I see and praise of the product really do (mostly) emphasize the slickness and the “pop” it gives. Your review was a much better, more critical, look at the product which I appreciate a lot. For me though, I just think everything looks good.

I don’t think I’ve ever been disappointed by any product of that nature, unless the application was less than enjoyable. So for me, and this is just my situation and not a judgement of any product in general, but gloss and slickness are just pretty low on the totem pole of things I want.

Your review does bring a good point to my attention though, which is applying frequently to avoid contamination I tend to pick up contamination pretty quickly, and maybe if I just applied something like d156 after every wash I could avoid some of that.

Granted, there’s a massive amount of pollen and debris, followed by rain in my area. So maybe it’s unrealistic to expect to avoid picking up any contamination.

Things to think about, I guess.



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[Eldorado2k]

Eldo,
Good review. I think it depends on criteria when determining something’s longevity. Environment also plays a role. I think when most people talk about the durability of a product it is in terms of how long the beading performance/ self cleaning ability lasts. While I live in NC I did help start a company out in LA (Woodland Hills) for 8 months several years ago. Rain is certainly something you don’t have to worry about in LA. But that air and contaminants certainly are. It’s like breathing while sucking on a furnace out there. Lol. Here in NC I judge longevity by how long a single application of a product still performs throughout constant rain and other weather.

I could see how BM would be the perfect LSP for your area and other dry areas of the country. It’s extremely slick and does seem to form a hard barrier with its hardening components of the product. I could see how it would perform better in a baggie test than a lot of other products out there.
I still use BM even though I feel as though it is not the longest lasting(beading) product out there.

I think I should clarify a bit... This was more of a test of Beadmaker being my sole form of protection during a 2 month stretch more so than a claim of its longevity.

I felt like this would provide a true gauge of its abilities and more importantly its true results because how often do we really get to see the true results from something like this? Pretty rarely if you think about it because just about everyone uses a product like this as a “topper” which muddles any true indication of any products results.

The other tests we usually see is where people will either lay down 1 application and come back in 1-3 months wondering why its longevity was a major disappointment.

Oh and we can’t forget the chemical abuse tests that seem to be the latest trend on youtube, where people will wash the panel with APC, iron removers, etc. in order to see if the beading survives.

IMO the only real way to get a true gauge would be to use it as a standalone without any interference whatsoever, which is what I presented here with this review.

Also, as far as it performing better than other products in regards to the baggie test? You have to keep in mind that when comparing this to pretty much every popular modern day AIO, yes technically BeadMaker beats them, but alot of it has to do with the fact that Beadmaker can be reapplied every 6-10 days whereas the AIO’s are left hanging on their thin from the start protection which usually begins folding at around the 10 day mark.

As far as dedicated lsps, most products I’ve tested have been underwhelming based on their expectations. However I do have a go to sealant that shall remain nameless which IME provides long term protection against bonded contaminants and also beads better than any product I’ve ever used. Once I’m done stretching this Beadmaker run as far as it can go I’ll go back to the dedicated base layer and use Beadmaker on top since it’s supposed play nice and not completely interfere.

That was probably a long post huh? Lol.

Your review does bring a good point to my attention though, which is applying frequently to avoid contamination I tend to pick up contamination pretty quickly, and maybe if I just applied something like d156 after every wash I could avoid some of that.

Yes, exactly that!

 

[WRAPT C5Z06]

Eldo, I LIKE Beadmaker. I bought a gallon after trying it. I use it as a drying aid after every wash. It’s going to last, just as Megs UQW would if I applied it every week. Beadmakers durabilty is NOT its strong point if only used every once in a while. I use it because it’s slick as hell, provides nice lubrication and smells fantastic. Durabilty is not a concern for me, as I apply it every week in some form.


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[WRAPT C5Z06]

Eldo, I LIKE Beadmaker. I bought a gallon after trying it. I use it as a drying aid after every wash. It’s going to last, just as Megs UQW would if I applied it every week. Beadmakers durabilty is NOT its strong point if only used every once in a while. I use it because it’s slick as hell, glossy, provides nice lubrication and smells fantastic. Durabilty is not a concern for me, as I apply it every week in some form.


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[Eldorado2k]

Eldo, I LIKE Beadmaker. I bought a gallon after trying it. I use it as a drying aid after every wash. It’s going to last, just as Megs UQW would if I applied it every week. Beadmakers durabilty is NOT its strong point if only used every once in a while. I use it because it’s slick as hell, provides nice lubrication and smells fantastic. Durabilty is not a concern for me, as I apply it every week in some form.


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I feel the same way. Just for the record, I never said it had great durability, as I haven’t gone more than about 7 days before re applying it.. I will however say that it has way more durability than any AIO including all the latest popular ones talked about on this forum.

 

[spewking]

I tried BM for the first time on top of WGDPS, comparing it to McKees trademark extender spray wax, each applied to half the hoods and doors.

2 weeks in...daily driver...a little rain and one power rinse off...and the winner is...

Beadmaker.

The BM side had better water runoff and beading, and feels slicker. The wow factor was watching the water action on the vertical panels...it bounced and dispersed just like a coating....really unexpected and different than the McKees or other spray polymers/waxes I’ve used.

I’m going to apply again after next wash and continue to compare with other sprays. A lot of the concerns here about BM are about durability, but if you have a base LSP and wash every 1-2 weeks, the BM may be their winner to use in this regard.

 

[bofh]

I just used the last of my Bead Maker gallon applying to my black kitchen appliances. I love the slickness! Ordered another gallon. I've never had a product make me so happy to use it.

 

[Belo]

i'm a little confused by your post. You say you've been using it on a consistent basis over the last 2 months. I think many of us only expect to use an LSP a few times, if that a year. So if I am understanding your post correctly, you haven't really tackled the longevity issue at all.

finally, doesn't it hardly ever rain where you live?

 

[Belo]

Now lets put longevity in proper perspective here... Are we expecting the same kind of longevity from a liquid spray sealant as we would a dedicated liquid or paste sealant? I’m certainly not, but then again this stuff comes in a gallon, and as we can see I still have 1/4th of a gallon left after 2 months of constant use every 4-5 days. I can live with that, especially considering how fast and easy it goes on/off.

dude, you indirectly compared it to hd speed in your post...

 

[Belo]

The average car owner would be blown away if they knew all they had to do was wipe their car down occasionally with Beadmaker and it would shine like this. And the plus is it works on window, trim, chrome etc.

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with all do respect, if you're going for a quick bang then that's fine. the whole point of decon, clay and polish is to get the crap out. the point of a wax, seal or coat is to keep it off. These 2 very important steps will keep your brand new cars paint looking better for longer. I sure hope a new car would shine pretty well as it hasn't been exposed to anything for very long. A better test of this product would be to find a neglected 4 year old rogue and apply the same steps you took to it.

I am in no way trying to bash this product. it looks good and sounds appealing, but I find it difficult for you to bash the longevity and protection aspects like they're somehow not important and that shine is the end all be all.

 

[Belo]

I enjoy using the Double Black Collection Bead Maker Paint Protectant, especially on friends and family members vehicles. Most of my friends and family members could care less about cleaning or detailing their cars. If they don't care about their cars, then I'm not going to waste my time spending hours detailing their cars. I can simply wash their vehicles and quickly apply Bead Maker and they will be extremely happy with how glossy their paint looks and how slick the paint feels.

My neighbor was outside last night washing his two-year old Honda Civic Type R "White" when I came home from work. He's always talking with me about my car and how I keep it looking so nice and clean. He knows nothing about car care, so I always try explaining things, but it just goes right over his head. I walk over to him and tell him "Car looks great!" while he's washing the car. I look over the car and see it's loaded with rail dust and feels like sandpaper. He thought that was just a defect with the paint lol. I went inside and grabbed a bottle of Bead Maker and sprayed it on the car and wiped it off. He asked what is that stuff? I told him it's an inexpensive paint protectant called "Bead Maker" that's extremely slick and glossy. He said wow look at the shine. I said yes, it's very glossy. I told him to now feel the paint surface. He was blown away with how slick his paint surface was. He looked at me and said, Bobby can you please bring home a bottle of that stuff so I can use it on my car from now on. I said sure it only retails for $10.99 and I'll get you a discount on it too. He was also amazed by the price of this product for how good it performed.

Now remember his Civic Type R was loaded with rail dust and felt like sandpaper. No iron remover, no clay bar, no polish was used before applying the Bead Maker to his painted surfaces. He was extremely happy with an inexpensive spray product that only took a few minutes to apply and made such a big difference in the appearance of his vehicle. His Civic Type R now looks extremely glossy and slick to the touch.

I did explain to him that he should use an Iron Remover, Clay Bar and Polish to remove the rail dust and airborne contaminants from his vehicle to get the best performance out of the Bead Maker. His Paint surface would look and feel even better if he took the time and detailed his car the correct way.

Inexpensive, easy to use, great results = Happy Customer

Renny Doyle Double Black Bead Maker Paint Protectant

I'm glad you told him about removing the contaminants, because just covering them up is not a good long term solution.

 

[Rsurfer]

I am in no way trying to bash this product. it looks good and sounds appealing, but I find it difficult for you to bash the longevity and protection aspects like they're somehow not important and that shine is the end all be all.

To some it is the end all, be all.

 

[Klasse Act]

Alright...

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[Belo]

To some it is the end all, be all.

yeah i get it. For me though it's like putting fresh paint over rotting wood, or interior paint on the outside of your house. You'll be good with either for a while but that's it. Without cleaning and removing the rail dust, contaminants and crap what's the point of providing a protection barrier?

idk, I have 3 kids and full-time job and I love my cars, but to hand wash once a week and apply a product once a week is crazy for most. If anyone needs evidence of this, the coating craze is proof that people want more value for their time.

 

[WristyManchego]

idk, I have 3 kids and full-time job and I love my cars, but to hand wash once a week and apply a product once a week is crazy for most. If anyone needs evidence of this, the coating craze is proof that people want more value for their time.

Here’s where you finally validate your opinion with circumstance.

The review was completed with certain parameters and a result was formed. If these don’t fit your use case then it doesn’t mean the product or review is rubbish, it simply provides you a use case.

Take it or leave it.

 

[Eldorado2k]

dude, you indirectly compared it to hd speed in your post...

I intentionally compared it to HD Speed in my post, there wasn’t anything indirect about it. I stand by my statement that this product blows away HD Speed or any other AIO in terms of longevity. Most AIO’s don’t even bead at the 2 week mark, and in this case HD Speed was only beading maybe 20% at a mere 7 days after I used it on my car.

i'm a little confused by your post. You say you've been using it on a consistent basis over the last 2 months. I think many of us only expect to use an LSP a few times, if that a year. So if I am understanding your post correctly, you haven't really tackled the longevity issue at all.

finally, doesn't it hardly ever rain where you live?

I think you’re confusing the term standalone for longevity...

Standalone: Meaning it’s the only product that’s on your paint with the purpose of providing protection. You could apply a paste wax, sealant, etc. to your paint everyday for the next month, it still doesn’t change the fact that it’s the only product that’s protecting the paint.

There’s alot of reviews i.e. for coatings which state something like “yea my C Quartz has been doing great going on 2yrs. and all I’ve ever done is top it with Reload, Skin, Gliss, Wetcoat, etc. every 3 months and it’s still beads”.... Yea it’s no wonder it still beads... But 1 thing it’s not is a standalone review for C Quartz because it’s been muddled with another product.

It was never my intention to tackle Beadmakers longevity. I don’t expect this or any spray sealant that only takes me maybe an extra minute of time to apply as a drying aid during a quik waterless/rinseless or bucket wash to somehow last and protect my paint for 2-3 months or even longer like some of these outrageous expectations some people on youtube have when they do longevity tests of spray sealants.

I apply it during my waterless wash which I do every 4-7 days and the entire process of wiping down my car takes an average of 10-12 minutes from beginning to end. It’s super easy. How long it lasts on a single application is irrelevant to me.

I live in Los Angeles, it pretty much never rains over here.