Mike your pro opinion on cleaner/wax and pads please

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whats the best combo for AIO , cleaner/wax and pads for a DA and for a Forced Rotation ? my main purpose is to save time and effort but have the best result i can get

thank you for your time

p.s. i want a combo for neglected cars and one for good condition cars
 
Simple.....


Try to stick with foam "polishing" pads when doing one-step details.

If the paint is soft - and you use a foam cutting pad - the pad itself can micro-mar the paint. If you have to buff out a car all over again to remove the micro-marring, it's no longer a one-step detail, it's a 2-step detail. Lots of wasted time.


When doing this for money, you should NOT be promising to your customers that you're going to remove 100% of all the defects. If they are choosing your one-step PACKAGE then what they get is what they get. Always be happy to remove more defects but that's package 2 and 3 - more time, more work more money.


You CAN use foam CUTTING pads but just be sure to do a TEST SPOT first to make sure the paint is not soft and being marred by the pad.


Read, don't scan but READ This article.


Good rule of thumb when using an AIO - stick with foam polishing pads by Mike Phillips




:)
 
Mike Phillips said:
Simple.....


Try to stick with foam "polishing" pads when doing one-step details.

If the paint is soft - and you use a foam cutting pad - the pad itself can micro-mar the paint. If you have to buff out a car all over again to remove the micro-marring, it's no longer a one-step detail, it's a 2-step detail. Lots of wasted time.


When doing this for money, you should NOT be promising to your customers that you're going to remove 100% of all the defects. If they are choosing your one-step PACKAGE then what they get is what they get. Always be happy to remove more defects but that's package 2 and 3 - more time, more work more money.


You CAN use foam CUTTING pads but just be sure to do a TEST SPOT first to make sure the paint is not soft and being marred by the pad.


Read, don't scan but READ This article.


Good rule of thumb when using an AIO - stick with foam polishing pads by Mike Phillips




:)
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so why many people use MF finishing pads with one step products like D166 for example?
i suppose the yellow rupes pads ( ihave plenty of them) seal the deal in most cases. what AIO in your opinion is an all around best?
 
Reno said:
so why many people use MF finishing pads with one step products like D166 for example?
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I don't know.

The risk to finish with a FIBER pad using a one-step is you can leave behind micro-marring.

Maybe some people don't see it?
Maybe some people be working on light colored cars and don't see it.
Maybe the wax is coating over and masking the micro-marring?
Maybe some people don't know how to so a Test Spot?
Maybe some people don't know how to chemically strip their Test Spot to accurately see the true results?
Maybe some people working on HARD paint where it's not an issue?
Maybe some people are not looking for "perfect" results - just "good" results.

All kinds of reasons for people to use fiber pads over foam.


Me? I know what's taking place at the surface level and my standards for finish quality tends to be higher than most because I'm held to a higher standard. I write for both spectrum of the masses. The absolute fresh off the truck Newbie and the most seasoned professionals among us.


Reno said:
what AIO in your opinion is an all around best?
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Of the one-steps I've tried, you cannot make a mistake with either BLACKFIRE One Step or 3D Speed.



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More....


Read through this article and then try to find ANY article or even video anywhere that explains the history of the microfiber pad and then compares fiber pads to foam pads.


Try.


Fibers are a form of abrasive - Foam Pads vs Microfiber Pads by Mike Phillips



The problem you'll run into is most people simply don't have my background knowledge. I've been doing this either longer or have had a wider spectrum of exposure to all aspects of this industry. This enables me to write, speak and share info others simply don't know.


Unless they read one of my articles. :laughing:



:)
 
Mike Phillips said:
I don't know.

The risk to finish with a FIBER pad using a one-step is you can leave behind micro-marring.

Maybe some people don't see it?
Maybe some people be working on light colored cars and don't see it.
Maybe the wax is coating over and masking the micro-marring?
Maybe some people don't know how to so a Test Spot?
Maybe some people don't know how to chemically strip their Test Spot to accurately see the true results?
Maybe some people working on HARD paint where it's not an issue?
Maybe some people are not looking for "perfect" results - just "good" results.

All kinds of reasons for people to use fiber pads over foam.


Me? I know what's taking place at the surface level and my standards for finish quality tends to be higher than most because I'm held to a higher standard. I write for both spectrum of the masses. The absolute fresh off the truck Newbie and the most seasoned professionals among us.




Of the one-steps I've tried, you cannot make a mistake with either BLACKFIRE One Step or 3D Speed.



:)
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unfortunately in my european country these brands dont exist. here they sell scholls, menzerna, meguires, carpro, gyeon ,autofinesse and 3m
 
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