Looking for an after wash topper spray
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ScionTC1283
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Is 3D Bead it Up as glossy and slick as Beadmaker?
I have used the following toppers after cash washes elixir , reload , beadmaker , turtle wax seal and shine , collinite , meguiers quick wax , the last coat 2 , zaino z8, griots 3 in 1 , Hydrosilex and probably some cheaper brands I can not remember... The ones that I can remember are all good at what they do , some a lot more expensive than others , some better at gloss , others better at durability
without a doubt beadmaker beads all of them in terms of glossiness , slickness , easy of use and price point . There may be something better out there in one of those fields but when you combine the price point with what you gets , its pretty tough to beat , at least for me. Honorable mention to zaino z8 , that stuff is good too , but a bit harder to apply
Durability wise , I really don't know , I usually use it every car wash , but I have used it on my brothers audi that stays outside and gets a wash once a month and the product was still present after 3 weeks.
People talk about durability but to be honest with you ,I m pretty sure most guys here are still using some type of topper at least once a month , so I do not see a big deal on durability , specially when you can get a whole gallon of that damn thing for 30 $ . End of the day I ll take a product that makes my car look that much better over a product that is going to last me a few more weeks. I wash my car every week or 2 and I m still going to use some type of product to dry it so it makes more sense to me to use something that makes my car look that much better
I still use some type of " durable" product under the topper , but I always want that look at me effect on my car so a topper does wonders.
On that note, I really want to try tac system shinee , some people say it better than beadmaker on looks , and its not too expensive
without a doubt beadmaker beads all of them in terms of glossiness , slickness , easy of use and price point . There may be something better out there in one of those fields but when you combine the price point with what you gets , its pretty tough to beat , at least for me. Honorable mention to zaino z8 , that stuff is good too , but a bit harder to apply
Durability wise , I really don't know , I usually use it every car wash , but I have used it on my brothers audi that stays outside and gets a wash once a month and the product was still present after 3 weeks.
People talk about durability but to be honest with you ,I m pretty sure most guys here are still using some type of topper at least once a month , so I do not see a big deal on durability , specially when you can get a whole gallon of that damn thing for 30 $ . End of the day I ll take a product that makes my car look that much better over a product that is going to last me a few more weeks. I wash my car every week or 2 and I m still going to use some type of product to dry it so it makes more sense to me to use something that makes my car look that much better
I still use some type of " durable" product under the topper , but I always want that look at me effect on my car so a topper does wonders.
On that note, I really want to try tac system shinee , some people say it better than beadmaker on looks , and its not too expensive
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I like griots 3-1 and their Ceramic speedshine for drying aids if looking for protection. I feel Ammo Hydrate probably works best for towel marring.
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Klasse Act
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Because of the car he posted he's overseas and might not be able to get some of the products we're suggesting or if he can will cost a pretty penny
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Because of the car he posted he's overseas and might not be able to get some of the products we're suggesting or if he can will cost a pretty penny
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Only car i saw OP post was a 06 envoy and he stated that he could get griots products. Just thought he was local. I believe some one is stocking griots across the pond in UK. Just didn’t think gmc envoys were crossing over. What car makes you think he’s overseas?
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Never mind, I was just on another thread about apartment washing...time for some Zzzzzz's
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I started using 3D Bead It Up this winter after WW with N-914. Produces a slick surface and great shine.
I noticed this winter that snow and ice do not stick to the vehicle and slide right off. Also I have noticed when the snow slides off it takes a majority of the salt residue with it.
I noticed this winter that snow and ice do not stick to the vehicle and slide right off. Also I have noticed when the snow slides off it takes a majority of the salt residue with it.
According to PA USA web page High Gloss durability is up to 7 months and Esoyeric says that Spritz is 4-6 so basically is there any real difference between the 2 in terms of durability?
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I’ve read where high gloss is 2-3 months. PA states 4-6 months for rapid waxxx and i’ve read 4-6 weeks.
Cosmic is supposedly higher in Sio2 than Tio2 and opposite for High gloss although i can’t confirm because i can’t find SDS for high gloss.
More tio2 is supposedly what brings the gloss and lower sio2 gives less durability. And you’ve been around long enough to know to take manufacturers suggested claimed durability’s.... i get at most 3-4 months from Cosmic so will be happy with 2 months from high gloss.
If you do believe in manufacture’s claims pop this on and i’ll see you in 9 years.
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DP Need for Bead is good stuff. Much like Beadmaker. Basically a first line competitor in my experience. Does everything similar. I liked it slightly more but I wasn’t a huge BM fan to begin with. Anyone looking for an easy, pleasant topper to spray every few washes would be happy with Need for Bead in my opinion.
https://www.autogeekonline.net/foru...iew-dp-need-bead.html?highlight=Need+for+bead
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High Gloss has 80% TiO2 listed and 5% SiO2, however that was calculated / managed. Either way it’s some heavy TiO2 in the overall formula.
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Yeah it’s crazy how much they use Sio2/Tio2. Rapidwaxxx which cheap by PA standards is 30% or greater on both plus 5% nooba.
Have you tried Rapidwaxxx and any Carnauba Arts? Seems like only difference is 5% more nooba and color charged.
Thinking what i should get for non metallic white. Rapidwaxxx, White Alabaster, or Gold zirkon....
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I have Rapidwaxx, Black Wulfenite, Grey Graphite and Gold Zircon.
The stats on Rapidwaxx look great, no doubt. It’s very smooth. It doesn’t blow me away but it makes everything look luscious.
With that said, Carnauba Arts are a visual step up. Like some of the best looking things I’ve ever used. I would go the extra $30-40 for the Arts if you have that luxury.
My recommendation for non-metallic white would be White Alabaster even though I haven’t used it, I just trust the line. Black Wulfenite is my #1 for wife’s non-metallic black Audi. Gold Zircon looks amazing on metallic and probably everything if you wanted more future flexibility (not that White Alabaster can’t be used on other colors). I haven’t tried Grey Graphite but the X5 M will wear it in spring and I’m excited about it.
I can’t stop typing but basically you can’t go wrong with any of the Carnauba Arts imo and you aren’t going to cry if you end up with only Rapidwaxx.
Point to you!!!I’ve read where high gloss is 2-3 months. PA states 4-6 months for rapid waxxx and i’ve read 4-6 weeks.
Cosmic is supposedly higher in Sio2 than Tio2 and opposite for High gloss although i can’t confirm because i can’t find SDS for high gloss.
More tio2 is supposedly what brings the gloss and lower sio2 gives less durability. And you’ve been around long enough to know to take manufacturers suggested claimed durability’s.... i get at most 3-4 months from Cosmic so will be happy with 2 months from high gloss.
If you do believe in manufacture’s claims pop this on and i’ll see you in 9 years.
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Makes perfectly sense...
Jeez 9 yrs!?!?!
Yeah right
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Nice!!!
I actually have a bottle that havent open yet waiting for the weather to warm up.
I dont like Dust Maker but if DP dont require cure time but gives similar slickness and gloss to me is better than BM
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Soooooo Rapid Waxx does have SiO2/TiO2 on its formula???
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Super interesting post
I thought the color charge thing was a placebo more than anything.
The durability of the carnauba arts is the same as the RW?
My wife has a Glacier White Q5, I was thinking to put 2 layers of RW on it because dont like the idea of coloring my eagle towels... (lame)
That white requires extra effort to pop, you think RW will cut it or it needs the extra step?
Can you really tell the difference between HG and Cosmic???
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According to SDS over 30% on both. I’ve read more along the lines of what Acura was saying in terms of looks... more nooba and color charged.
Protection and beading i’m guessing same (same +30 on tio2/sio2)
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