What are your opinions regarding Bilt Hamber Auto-Foam?

[CleanIT]

It would be interesting for sure, not sure what ratio is recommended for Alien Kleen for a pre-wash and never heard of the 3rd product. I do know Alien Kleen is pretty close in price to Bilt-Hamber but still currently less expensive. I do know Bilt-Hamber Touchless and Auto-foam are made for your paint and a WELL PROVEN product, again, don't know about that last product

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I missed Coating's post from before he said Shine Supply Holeshot is a similar product. I too have never heard of it. I do know BH is proven and works I've always read positive things about it.

 

[Klasse Act]

I missed Coating's post from before he said Shine Supply Holeshot is a similar product. I too have never heard of it. I do know BH is proven and works I've always read positive things about it.

I can't say enough about Bilt-Hamber Auto-foam and Touchless...but I try

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[The Guz]

I missed Coating's post from before he said Shine Supply Holeshot is a similar product. I too have never heard of it. I do know BH is proven and works I've always read positive things about it.

If it’s anything like their other soaps then it will fall short. Unimpressed from any of the shine supply soaps.

 

[CleanIT]

I picked up an IK Pro Foam 12 and want to be able to heavily foam my truck after off-road usage. A pressure washer usually gets rid of most of it, but there is always some dirt left behind so I'm looking for the best pre-wash foam cleaning I can get. Right now it appears to be BH. I have a gallon of OPC left I'll try at some point too.

This video I found of OPC was impressive too. (skip to 2:20-2:50).

OPTIMUM POWER CLEAN قوة منتج - YouTube

 

[Coatingsarecrack]

I'd love to see a pre-wash foam cleaning test between:

OPC
BH Touchless
Shine Supply Holeshot

It would be interesting for sure, not sure what ratio is recommended for Alien Kleen for a pre-wash and never heard of the 3rd product. I do know Alien Kleen is pretty close in price to Bilt-Hamber but still currently less expensive. I do know Bilt-Hamber Touchless and Auto-foam are made for your paint and a WELL PROVEN product, again, don't know about that last product

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I missed Coating's post from before he said Shine Supply Holeshot is a similar product. I too have never heard of it. I do know BH is proven and works I've always read positive things about it.

From the video Ninja posted Ivan used it 1:3 I believe. One thing to take note is he used in air foamer doesn’t mix with water like a foam gun or foam cannon.

If using in one of those ShineSupply says to use Hole Shot neat and I would think same for OPC…


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[CleanIT]

I have a Marolex Sprayer and IK Foam Pro 12. I'm going to play around with OPC and see how it works when just sprayed vs foamed. I think a sprayer may be the better option. Took my truck off-road yesterday and got it relatively dirty. If OPC doesn't do the job, I'll definitely be buying BH Touchless.

 

[Coatingsarecrack]

I have a Marolex Sprayer and IK Foam Pro 12. I'm going to play around with OPC and see how it works when just sprayed vs foamed. I think a sprayer may be the better option. Took my truck off-road yesterday and got it relatively dirty. If OPC doesn't do the job, I'll definitely be buying BH Touchless.

If you have a PW get AutoFoam. Feel it cleans just a touch better.


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[briarpatch]

If you have a PW get AutoFoam. Feel it cleans just a touch better.


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Interesting how different folks get different results using BH Touchless vs BH Auto Foam. Here's a video from The Forensic Detailing channel where he uses the two products (and plain water and a Ph neutral shampoo) as a pre-wash...and the Touchless did better. Probably lots of variables to factor into the results I'm sure

Does SNOW FOAM do ANYTHING? | Touchless V Autofoam V PH Neutral V Water - YouTube

 

[MisterSnoop]

BH does state that depending on soil type and conditions, in some cases, Auto Foam may be superior. Not sure what soil type/conditions are better suited for which product.

 

[Coatingsarecrack]

Interesting how different folks get different results using BH Touchless vs BH Auto Foam. Here's a video from The Forensic Detailing channel where he uses the two products (and plain water and a Ph neutral shampoo) as a pre-wash...and the Touchless did better. Probably lots of variables to factor into the results I'm sure

Does SNOW FOAM do ANYTHING? | Touchless V Autofoam V PH Neutral V Water - YouTube

BH does state that depending on soil type and conditions, in some cases, Auto Foam may be superior. Not sure what soil type/conditions are better suited for which product.

Yeah being different products they will perform differently on different types of dirt, film, oils and environmental fallout.

All these conditions could very within 50 miles of each other let alone cross continents.

It’s why I find it funny when somebody touts something the like to use detail wise yet others spew it as garbage.

All the things I mentioned as well as our paint, weather, temperature, humidity all very from user to user so theoretically something will perform both amazingly and horribly depending on all these variables.

There will never be a pure best. Just what works best for that person dealing with their variables.

It’s when a product works well on all types of variables for all types of people it gets great recognition.


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[briarpatch]

Onw thing about BH Touchless and AutoFoam......I've yet to see a comparison that has one product 'head and shoulders' above the other. When BH came out with Touchless, a lot of people wondered why they'd have two products in their line that, effectively, did the same thing and were really competing against one another.

Does anyone know if they come in smaller quantities? I'd like to try them both....but really do not have a need for 5L bottles of each f them

 

[Coatingsarecrack]

Onw thing about BH Touchless and AutoFoam......I've yet to see a comparison that has one product 'head and shoulders' above the other. When BH came out with Touchless, a lot of people wondered why they'd have two products in their line that, effectively, did the same thing and were really competing against one another.

Does anyone know if they come in smaller quantities? I'd like to try them both....but really do not have a need for 5L bottles of each f them

I don’t believe they do. Running it how suggested in a foam cannon at a 4% panel impact ratio you would mix anywhere from 30-60% of product and then fill rest with water. This method uses a lot of product and seams to be how most use.

Even a 32oz bottle at a 50/50 mixture would fill a foam cannon maybe 3 times.


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[MisterSnoop]

Does anyone know if they come in smaller quantities? I'd like to try them both....but really do not have a need for 5L bottles of each f them

Currently sitting in Paulsboro killing time waiting for a meeting to start. If you're anywhere near here, I could probably drop off some Touchless next trip down if you want to try it.

 

[Calendyr]

Been wanting to try this product for a long time. A youtuber I follow (forensic detailing) has shown many times how awesome their pre-washes are. Unfortunatelly the product is always out of stock in Canada and I have stopped ordering from Autogeek because of the insane shipping costs. Last time I ordered shipping charge was 50% of the price of the products, I imagine that with the gas cost now, it probably a lot worse.

I hope to get my hands on this stuff soon. Same goes for Meguiars Hyperdressing that has been out of stock for like 3 years now ;(

 

[PouncingPanzer]

My wife asked me for some gift ideas and I sent her a link to a 5L of BH Touch-less. Along with another Griot's Brilliant Shine Foam Cannon. I am excited to finally try some BH products. My car stays pretty clean during the summer and I would like to use touchless when it is just covered in dust and light water spots. Followed by an ONR wipedown. At least that's the plan.

 

[Coatingsarecrack]

My wife asked me for some gift ideas and I sent her a link to a 5L of BH Touch-less. Along with another Griot's Brilliant Shine Foam Cannon. I am excited to finally try some BH products. My car stays pretty clean during the summer and I would like to use touchless when it is just covered in dust and light water spots. Followed by an ONR wipedown. At least that's the plan.

You’ll be able to do that on a pretty dirty car. I follow up a BH pre wash with A rinseless or Frothe wash all the time.


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[crg001]

Bumping this thread to talk about pre-soak foams some more. :bump:

To those that have used both of the BH pre-foams, which one is better if you are not rinsing with a power washer? I'm working on a beer keg pressure sprayer project and will soon be going almost 100% rinseless (CA water restrictions are getting serious and I occasionally do mobile detailing). I'd like to be able to foam on a presoak with a pump foamer, dwell, and then rinse off with my rinseless solution from my pressure keg. This will have about 100psi of air pressure behind it, but nothing as impactful as what a PW can provide.

I've been using 3D Super Presoak but I find that its dilution ratios are confounding (One quarter teaspoon per liter? 1:1000? What??), and I end up over-using the product to get it to foam correctly, which in turn makes it harder to cleanly rinse away. Its cleaning abilities don't wow me either.

Also interested in American Detailer Garage F-Bomb for this as it is a soap-based degreaser and is listed at 1:10 dilution for traffic film removal, anyone here have experience with that product? BH will likely be better value, but I just want what will work the best.

 

[MisterSnoop]

Autofoam is for high pressure rinsing. Touchless can be used with lower pressure rinsing.

 

[crg001]

Autofoam is for high pressure rinsing. Touchless can be used with lower pressure rinsing.

Thank you, I was looking for this. The general item descriptions of both say to "power wash off" so I couldn't remember which one was which

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[opie2]

Bumping this thread to talk about pre-soak foams some more. :bump:

To those that have used both of the BH pre-foams, which one is better if you are not rinsing with a power washer? I'm working on a beer keg pressure sprayer project and will soon be going almost 100% rinseless (CA water restrictions are getting serious and I occasionally do mobile detailing). I'd like to be able to foam on a presoak with a pump foamer, dwell, and then rinse off with my rinseless solution from my pressure keg. This will have about 100psi of air pressure behind it, but nothing as impactful as what a PW can provide.

I've been using 3D Super Presoak but I find that its dilution ratios are confounding (One quarter teaspoon per liter? 1:1000? What??), and I end up over-using the product to get it to foam correctly, which in turn makes it harder to cleanly rinse away. Its cleaning abilities don't wow me either.

Dilution ratios are .5 oz per 5gallon bucket wash, .5 oz in a 32 oz foam cannon. If your pw doesnt have hifher gpm then maybe step up the super pre soak to 1 oz in 32 oz foam cannon

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