21,031 users in 2016 to 2,400???

But yeah, forums require a bit of thought. A well-worded question, and then responders must actually think about a response, then type it.

Agree, it is a medium designed to share detailed information. Not only can you format longer responses, but even the ability to arrange threads into different topic categories is something you'd never find on another social platform outside of maybe Reddit. Not been on Discord to see what it looks like. Another huge advantage is forums are searchable from Google. On platforms like FB there is no way for Google to index a page.

Social media platforms are fine from an entertainment standpoint and keeping up with friends/family, IMO, but not someplace I'd go for a serious discussion about any given topic. Whether it's lawn care, smoking meat, or a range of automotive things from detailing to racing, I'll always hunt down a forum first.

I believe this is becoming "too complicated" for this Twitter/Tic-Tok/IG generation. I saw a story recently where not ONE of these kids that were interviewed could actually write a letter, put it in an envelope, purchase a stamp, and find a mailbox to mail it. They had ZERO clue what the interviewer was even talking about..... "What's a Letter??"

And God help us when that skill is lost............

I can't say it's only younger people...I'm a middle-aged, empty nester and I don't use stamps/mail/letters anymore either. I don't think I've actually written a letter which was sent in the mail in 20+ years. I can't remember the last time I bought stamps. My wife buys a book at the grocery store about once/twice a year. 90% of our bill paying is electronic these days. Even those that mail an invoice get paid electronically. The only out-bound mail from our house these days is my wife's invoices for her side-work. We use other things in the place of greeting cards. Mail just doesn't have a purpose like it used too. Heck, checks are the same way. I go so long between writing them these days, I have to think about it as I fill one out. It is usually for something very specific.

In the defense of younger folks, I have a good number of employees who are Millenial and Gen Z. They can write just fine, as can both of my daughters. The writing may be e-mail, a Teams chat, or a PowerPoint briefing. The ability to write is still there, the medium has just moved on from what we knew in our younger years.
 
his forum is themikephillipsforum not autoforge forum.

So how is anyone supposed to find out about it? And I’m not just talking about us, but average Joe who by chance might wind up at that website to buy some product for his vehicle. There’s no sign of it on there. Strange.

He seems to be the face of the website.

Sorry if it sounds like I’m repeating myself.
 
So how is anyone supposed to find out about it? And I’m not just talking about us, but average Joe who by chance might wind up at that website to buy some product for his vehicle. There’s no sign of it on there. Strange.

That is a good point, and I do not have an answer to it.

The auto forge website might have had a "forum" button at one point, but I'm not sure clicking on it did anything.
 
The auto forge website might have had a "forum" button at one point, but I'm not sure clicking on it did anything.

Those are 2 things that shouldn’t be left to speculation.

That’s like me saying I might’ve had 10 million dollars in the bank, but I’m not sure if I spent it or not.lol.
 
Those are 2 things that shouldn’t be left to speculation.

That’s like me saying I might’ve had 10 million dollars in the bank, but I’m not sure if I spent it or not.lol.
Oh, so you lost your bitcoin password?!

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So how is anyone supposed to find out about it? And I’m not just talking about us, but average Joe who by chance might wind up at that website to buy some product for his vehicle. There’s no sign of it on there. Strange.

He seems to be the face of the website.

Sorry if it sounds like I’m repeating myself.

“The first rule of Fight Club is you do not talk about Fight Club”


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Not discounting any points made so far, but I’m surprised that no one has mentioned that AG itself is in a hard decline. Tony George is running the show like he did with the IRL. It’s really sad to watch.
 
Not discounting any points made so far, but I’m surprised that no one has mentioned that AG itself is in a hard decline. Tony George is running the show like he did with the IRL. It’s really sad to watch.
Do you mean from a sales sysndpoint or our forum activity

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Not discounting any points made so far, but I’m surprised that no one has mentioned that AG itself is in a hard decline. Tony George is running the show like he did with the IRL. It’s really sad to watch.

It’s possible that consolidation was inevitable, just had so many brands that were pretty similar: Pinnacle, Blackfire, Wolfgang, DP, McKees 37 for a while… we’re they all really *that* different? Throw in all of the other mfg brands they offer and that’s a lot of money tied up in inventory, perhaps not sustainable in uncertain economy.

Heard mentioned once that they hadn’t done a physical inventory in years…too much stuff.

Dunno but it does seem a bit like the ‘golden years’ might be fading and the forums with it…nothing lasts forever these days…


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I'm no business man, don't even play one on the radio, or podcast for that matter but maybe streamline the brands and make upstarts prove themselves, quality over quanity.

I agree about the house brands as well as "lazy" brands that are really stagnet, we're all too smart and know BS when we see it

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The funniest thing about this forum in the old days is the number of fake accounts, that were specifically there to channel opinions of forum members, leading them exactly to buy products that AG wanted to sell.

They also used 'authority' of some participants to form a view on what's good and what's not.

Mike's input was also significant in doing so, to the extent that was laughable at some point (for me at least).

:wowwow:
 
The funniest thing about this forum in the old days is the number of fake accounts, that were specifically there to channel opinions of forum members, leading them exactly to buy products that AG wanted to sell.

They also used 'authority' of some participants to form a view on what's good and what's not.

Mike's input was also significant in doing so, to the extent that was laughable at some point (for me at least).

I don't remember any fake accounts here, and as far as the rest, it would be a bit naïve to think a sponsored forum wouldn't be populated with "influencers". This forum exists to sell product, one way or another. In addition to helping users to get the best results from products, it's here to promote products.

As an aside, I'm always amused how people assume that YouTube is somehow a place where you can get the straight skinny from people that are reviewing products out of the goodness of their heart, while ignoring the monetary influences that are baked into any "free" websites like Facebook, YouTube, etc. As someone once said, if you are getting something on the internet for free, then that means that YOU are the product.
 
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