Pan the Organizer product line...let's discuss@

[Klasse Act]

What is ADS??? Do we have a link to DFB's channel??

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The customer service from them is "Griot's Garage-esque" and the email response is VERY quick, then there's the products



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[DFB]

See the thing is about Pan, from me personally, is this, I sub'd and liked him and his channel, although many here didn't. I found myself defending him at times too about the difference between arrogant and confidence. Many times watching his channel I'd go out and purchase products, so for me, he was doing his job quite nicely for these companies, same with Jon @ Forensic Detailing, except I don't believe he was sponsored and if he was, he doesn't do it in a "slimey" manner

The video before the 2024 Awards debacle I was going to order the RW to try but I held back for some strange reason, kinda funny how that worked itself out, huh

Now ADS also came out nowhere, like his line but was built up via word of mouth (thank you Deyon) and not some contrived group of "influencers" and/ or "hype" man, how somebody can take DJ Kalid seriously is beyond me but there you have it! Because of a respected forum member, DFB, a person that researches and goes into GREAT detail about a product, swayed me away from a brand I love (Gyeon) when it came time for my coating. Now this may or not be the way it's normally done but in my case it's 100% how it went down.

In closing I'm glad I went with ADS over Pan's product because one will be here succeeding while another will just fade away into obscurity.....

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To me, there is a clear contrast I can see between ADS and CLEAN by Pan.

For starters, I want to be clear in saying that while I have not used Pan's products, they are more than likely very products, its just a shame they way it all played out.

It's when you look at "where" these two brands have come from that paints the picture.

Armour Detail Supply (ADS) was born out of a high-end detailing business, in particular two young guys with high ambition. From what I can see, Bradley is still actively "on the tools" and very experienced. This then leads to hands on expertise when developing products. The result is simply brilliant products and a brand with high overall customer service and relatability. There is NO I'm better than you coming across from the business.

Now, I have no doubt Pan has plenty of detailing experience and knowledge, but from what I have seen in his videos, he does more talking about detailing than actual detailing. You will also notice he does a lot of standing in front of the camera reading product labels, which to me suggests he hasn't even used the product at all. I guess when you are being paid to feature a brand or product, why even bother to sample it, just read what they told you to and cash that cheque. This all then flows into the products he puts his name on. I don't doubt the claims of these products being his own proprietary blends, and as I said, they are probably very good. But there is simply no real-world or pro-tested credibility here like present with ADS. Then throw in the super shady and sleezy way the brand was launched, how can I or anyone want to support this venture.

ADS are a class act, from where they started to where they sit right now. I have absolutely no financial connection to the company, I just like their products and the attitude towards their customers.

 

[DFB]

Good news everyone, JoshV is now selling his own pressure washer, sold through none other, The House of Rags.

It's just a huge YouTube Detailer circle jerk at this point.

 

[SheepStar]

Good news everyone, JoshV is now selling his own pressure washer, sold through none other, The House of Rags.

It's just a huge YouTube Detailer circle jerk at this point.

It’s great! All my competition is nuking themselves.

 

[Klasse Act]

Good news everyone, JoshV is now selling his own pressure washer, sold through none other, The House of Rags.

It's just a huge YouTube Detailer circle jerk at this point.

Whom

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[chilly]

Good news everyone, JoshV is now selling his own pressure washer, sold through none other, The House of Rags.

It's just a huge YouTube Detailer circle jerk at this point.

I can’t watch that guy

He’s only slightly less manic than Wilson Auto Detailing

Both of them are just waaaayyyy to intense


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[Optimus Grime]

I can’t watch that guy

He’s only slightly less manic than Wilson Auto Detailing

Both of them are just waaaayyyy to intense


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This right here. I think Josh is a good person. After watching one of his videos he had a rather nice discount code for a product I was considering. I hopped over to his site and clicked the wrong button and purchased the wrong item. He emailed me personally and took care of the issue expeditiously and I appreciate excellent customer service.

When it comes to his videos he needs to breathe. He always sounds like someone unplugged his oxygen tank and he needs to squeeze 25 minutes of talking into 1 minute of video. I can’t take Wilson at all. I’d rather be forced to use Chemical Guy’s products exclusively than to listen to one of WAD’s videos.

The biggest negative to come from Pan’s new line and all of the other detailing grifters is that I don’t want to watch any detailing vids on YouTube. It seems like 99% of them all have an angle are are trying to either get their own line or get big enough to get video sponsors by sucking up the next big company to come along.

 

[Klasse Act]

I wish my buddy Marc still did the podcast because I'd offer this stuff up as "talk soup" for sure

Speaking of that, I wonder if there's any podcasts which talk about detailing, all fascists of the hobby

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[SheepStar]

I wish my buddy Marc still did the podcast because I'd offer this stuff up as "talk soup" for sure

Speaking of that, I wonder if there's any podcasts which talk about detailing, all fascists of the hobby

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EC had one then shut it down and cut off his business partners with zero notice.

 

[Eldorado2k]

EC had one then shut it down and cut off his business partners with zero notice.

So that’s where that mystery dude [or 2] comes from eh? There were hints of people feeling sorry for someone in one the comment sections of a couple of vids I watched 1-2 months ago, but I could never quite figure out who the heck it was. All I knew was that DJ Khaled apparently screwed him with no lube. Lol.

I didn’t know there was an actual podcast.

 

[DFB]

It’s great! All my competition is nuking themselves.

Well, you are falling behind! When is your line of special award winning, game changing, not-white labeled, proprietary formula products that will be sold through a fellow Youtuber's webstore coming out? It's the going thing you know!

 

[DFB]

I wish my buddy Marc still did the podcast because I'd offer this stuff up as "talk soup" for sure

Speaking of that, I wonder if there's any podcasts which talk about detailing, all fascists of the hobby

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Plenty of detailing podcasts out there, but unlike Youtube, I can't be bothered with them. The only one I regularly listen to is the The Rag Company, mainly because you actually learn something rather than a bunch of detailers winging about dirty interiors and swirled out paint.......................you know, like its not their job to fix that sort of thing.

 

[DFB]

I can’t watch that guy

He’s only slightly less manic than Wilson Auto Detailing

Both of them are just waaaayyyy to intense


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I don't like his stuff either. He spends most of his time trying to persuade viewers into believing a discounted Amazon special is better than a proven, high-quality tool or product. Here's a bombshell Josh, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!

 

[Klasse Act]

Well, you are falling behind! When is your line of special award winning, game changing, not-white labeled, proprietary formula products that will be sold through a fellow Youtuber's webstore coming out? It's the going thing you know!

I'm waiting for the G.O.A.T line to come out

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[Setec Astronomy]

I didn’t know there was an actual podcast.

It was called "Keep it Real" and it's still there on his YouTube channel under the "live" tab.

 

[Eldorado2k]

It was called "Keep it Real" and it's still there on his YouTube channel under the "live" tab.

Khaled keeps it real? ok… lol.

Many months ago that dude promised me a free Griots Boss Foam Cannon during an interaction we had. Told me to hit him up in 3-4 weeks, I guess he was going finish testing it… When I hit him up 4 weeks later he completely ignored me. Ever since then I thought he was a deushbag. Lol.

 

[Klasse Act]

Khaled keeps it real? ok… lol.

Many months ago that dude promised me a free Griots Boss Foam Cannon during an interaction we had. Told me to hit him up in 3-4 weeks, I guess he was going finish testing it… When I hit him up 4 weeks later he completely ignored me. Ever since then I thought he was a deushbag. Lol.

Maybe he was looking for....

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[SheepStar]

Well, you are falling behind! When is your line of special award winning, game changing, not-white labeled, proprietary formula products that will be sold through a fellow Youtuber's webstore coming out? It's the going thing you know!

I actually looked at some private blending sites just to see what is out there and how much it costs. I can totally get the business sense for a working shop - you make chemicals that do what you need, for less than buying established, and have stuff to sell to customers for maintenance. You might not get top industry replacements but any chemical you can substitute and then also sell/package with details would make sense. Custom blends and the likes isn’t as cheap as the defaults though.

Mine will be ready in spring.

 

[DFB]

With Levi leaving The Rag Company, I really hope he doesn't land at The House of Rags.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

With Levi leaving The Rag Company, I really hope he doesn't land at The House of Rags.

When did that news break, and how?