Pan the Organizer product line...let's discuss@

He had his script memorized but did not hear the greatest.
 
chilly said:
Hopefully some of these show up at Autozone or O'reillys
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Not sure if that is sarcasm or not, but if the auto parts stores in my area are any indication, it's pretty unlikely.

Around here all our parts stores carry are their regular shampoo, the traditional speed shine, and the aerosol tire dressing. You might find Ceramic 3-in-1 occasionally, but not often. You might find a G15 buffer or their foam gun, but those boxes are dusty and you can tell those tools don't sell well.

I understand Griots getting into the ceramic game, but the only ceramic product I like is the Ceramic Speedshine. I've found the 3-in-1 and ceramic tire dressing to be nothing special and tire dressing is way too thick. I'd be curious how similar the rubber and tire dressing is to their tire dressing.
 
Desertnate said:
Not sure if that is sarcasm or not, but if the auto parts stores in my area are any indication, it's pretty unlikely.

Around here all our parts stores carry are their regular shampoo, the traditional speed shine, and the aerosol tire dressing. You might find Ceramic 3-in-1 occasionally, but not often. You might find a G15 buffer or their foam gun, but those boxes are dusty and you can tell those tools don't sell well.

I understand Griots getting into the ceramic game, but the only ceramic product I like is the Ceramic Speedshine. I've found the 3-in-1 and ceramic tire dressing to be nothing special and tire dressing is way too thick. I'd be curious how similar the rubber and tire dressing is to their tire dressing.
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No, wasn't being sarcastic

Your list of what the fluffy car parts stores carries in your area pretty much tallies with mine

I wouldn't mind trying the rinseless and I have said many times before I wish they sold the BOSS Creams instead of the mustard label line
 
Desertnate said:
Not sure if that is sarcasm or not, but if the auto parts stores in my area are any indication, it's pretty unlikely.

Around here all our parts stores carry are their regular shampoo, the traditional speed shine, and the aerosol tire dressing. You might find Ceramic 3-in-1 occasionally, but not often. You might find a G15 buffer or their foam gun, but those boxes are dusty and you can tell those tools don't sell well.

I understand Griots getting into the ceramic game, but the only ceramic product I like is the Ceramic Speedshine. I've found the 3-in-1 and ceramic tire dressing to be nothing special and tire dressing is way too thick. I'd be curious how similar the rubber and tire dressing is to their tire dressing.
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I used tire dressing after I used darkside. Liked as much or better due to ease of application.

I apply with a foam or MF wax applicator then level with one of those tire applicator make up brush. Goes on so easy for me.

Did a 4 way tire test with TW graphene, Perl, Darkside and Griots. Darkside and Griots lasted longest. After Thad did one tire half/half.

DarkSide lasted longer protection wise but I dress tire for looks…. Rubber should repel water mostly…. It’s rubber.

The Griots and Perl looked best to me. Darkside was splotchy on Michelin PS4S’s (now all Conti’s)

I want to love Darkside but just don’t. Funny is Darkside was 1st time I ordered anything detail wise in smallest bottle. The were out so sent me 32oz’s

As for 3-1 I didn’t like beading/sheeting of product. But I do feel it’s one of the most stout sealants out there.

They do have a lot of other products I loved were ceramic speed shine, ceramic tire, and their old BS rinseless was good for a gen 1 no protection product.

Chorded gen 1 g15 is such a beast. There BoSs pads are, well Infact, Boss… their BOSs creams have been great for me but in all honesty only compare to old Chem Guys M line and Adam’s stuff.

I feel more than any product tho that people really do have a varying degree of performance with tire shines.


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BudgetPlan1 said:
Both the drivers & navigators in World Rally cars are nuts…when they crash they crash BIG!

And the spectators lining the roads are a bit unhinged too

Would love to spend a day or two at Dirtfish though…looks like fun: https://drive.dirtfish.com/


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Let’s get an Autogeek group going… I’d be down.


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OMG the algorithm with Pan's minions reviewing his products, Mother of God make it stop

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Klasse Act said:
OMG the algorithm with Pan's minions reviewing his products, Mother of God make it stop

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I have started looking at UToob using the DuckDuckGo browser and their propietary UToob page that you "burn" after you are done and my VPN on warp drive to be able to come up to a fresh page each time and no algorithm "presents"

Feels like I am watching porn and trying to hide the foorprint
 
chilly said:
I have started looking at UToob using the DuckDuckGo browser and their propietary UToob page that you "burn" after you are done and my VPN on warp drive to be able to come up to a fresh page each time and no algorithm "presents"

Feels like I am watching porn and trying to hide the foorprint
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Ha...life without the algorithm.
 
Does anyone know if his 1.04M subs have dropped yet

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SNP209 said:
Still the same
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That sucks but I did what worked for me and at the end of the day it's all I could do, it's all anyone can do. I'm certainly not going to start a campaign against him, I voted the only way I knew how, just gotta move forward and pay more attention to Forensic Detailing and Sandro, it's what I'm looking for in a product reviewer

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Klasse Act said:
Thank you for the cliff notes version, I don't want to add to ANY views of ANY of his products! I see a well respected guy reviewing his products and had to unsubscribe to him as well, that's just me and how I chose to support or unsupport people. Pan's a parasite for how he launched his product line and this "inner circle" mentality is something I chose not to support and if you support him I just can't support YOU, sorry

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Wait you unsubbed?
 
Klasse Act said:
That sucks but I did what worked for me and at the end of the day it's all I could do, it's all anyone can do. I'm certainly not going to start a campaign against him, I voted the only way I knew how, just gotta move forward and pay more attention to Forensic Detailing and Sandro, it's what I'm looking for in a product reviewer

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I've been checking that every few weeks and it hasn't changed. I'm not sure how accurate those sub numbers are once you are up that high. I unsubscribed too, even though I rarely watched his stuff anyway.
 
I doubt many unsub unless some may be in ignore. I have subbed to some YT posters but rarely actually what the videos. If subs expired, it would give a better view.

What seems to have changed is the ease of market entry of detailing brands. In the years back, most local brands were re-labeled Chem Guys. Now with social media, it is easier to get a lot of exposure.
 
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See the thing is about Pan, from me personally, is this, I sub'd and liked him and his channel, although many here didn't. I found myself defending him at times too about the difference between arrogant and confidence. Many times watching his channel I'd go out and purchase products, so for me, he was doing his job quite nicely for these companies, same with Jon @ Forensic Detailing, except I don't believe he was sponsored and if he was, he doesn't do it in a "slimey" manner

The video before the 2024 Awards debacle I was going to order the RW to try but I held back for some strange reason, kinda funny how that worked itself out, huh

Now ADS also came out nowhere, like his line but was built up via word of mouth (thank you Deyon) and not some contrived group of "influencers" and/ or "hype" man, how somebody can take DJ Kalid seriously is beyond me but there you have it! Because of a respected forum member, DFB, a person that researches and goes into GREAT detail about a product, swayed me away from a brand I love (Gyeon) when it came time for my coating. Now this may or not be the way it's normally done but in my case it's 100% how it went down.

In closing I'm glad I went with ADS over Pan's product because one will be here succeeding while another will just fade away into obscurity.....

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Klasse Act said:
See the thing is about Pan, from me personally, is this, I sub'd and liked him and his channel, although many here didn't. I found myself defending him at times too about the difference between arrogant and confidence. Many times watching his channel I'd go out and purchase products, so for me, he was doing his job quite nicely for these companies, same with Jon @ Forensic Detailing, except I don't believe he was sponsored and if he was, he doesn't do it in a "slimey" manner

The video before the 2024 Awards debacle I was going to order the RW to try but I held back for some strange reason, kinda funny how that worked itself out, huh

Now ADS also came out nowhere, like his line but was built up via word of mouth (thank you Deyon) and not some contrived group of "influencers" and/ or "hype" man, how somebody can take DJ Kalid seriously is beyond me but there you have it! Because of a respected forum member, DFB, a person that researches and goes into GREAT detail about a product, swayed me away from a brand I love (Gyeon) when it came time for my coating. Now this may or not be the way it's normally done but in my case it's 100% how it went down.

In closing I'm glad I went with ADS over Pan's product because one will be here succeeding while another will just fade away into obscurity.....

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What is ADS??? Do we have a link to DFB's channel??
 
Pats300zx said:
What is ADS??? Do we have a link to DFB's channel??
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DFB is a forum member here, look for DFB's Garage and read anything from him and you see and feel the passion and knowledge on whatever he's talking about

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