Pinnacle Twins not enough?

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I have some light swirling on my 09 eclipse spyder (rave red pearl). The WG twins were recommended to me, but I have the Pinnacle twins and decided to give them a try on my trunk. I've watched my technique, worked a small area, and did everything that's been recommended so far. Orange pad for the swirl remover, and a white for the finishing. After a few attempts, I still see swirls. I'm using a flex 3401. Do I need to take my combo up a notch (Megs 105/205)? Am I missing something here? I hope to place an order for a variety of things tonight/early this week, so any advice would be appreciated.
 
pokey said:
I have some light swirling on my 09 eclipse spyder (rave red pearl). The WG twins were recommended to me, but I have the Pinnacle twins and decided to give them a try on my trunk. I've watched my technique, worked a small area, and did everything that's been recommended so far. Orange pad for the swirl remover, and a white for the finishing. After a few attempts, I still see swirls. I'm using a flex 3401. Do I need to take my combo up a notch (Megs 105/205)? Am I missing something here? I hope to place an order for a variety of things tonight/early this week, so any advice would be appreciated.
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If the Pinnacle isn't doing it...the WG should. Made by Menzerna. Megs 105/205 will definitely get your swrils out, but the WG is easier to work with.
 
Thanks for the input. Curious on your comment that WG is "easier" to work with. Other posts seem to refer to the Meg's as easy to work with (faster work time, etc). What makes the WG's easier?
 
pokey said:
Thanks for the input. Curious on your comment that WG is "easier" to work with. Other posts seem to refer to the Meg's as easy to work with (faster work time, etc). What makes the WG's easier?
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More lube equals more work time. Your lucky to get 3 passes with 105 before it dries up and start caking.
 
Thanks, I understand now. I'm still a bit confused though on the WG's being better than the pinnacle twins I have now. Per the AG chart, the Pinnacle ASR is stronger than the WG SR. I'm also going to try to snap some pics, maybe my results with the Pinnacle twins are acceptable?
 
Best thing for swirls are megs 105 and menz powergloss
. These should be followed up with finer polishes..............
 
Here's a pic (pardon the dust in the trunk line, will be cleaning that out soon.

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And another.... (I really appreciate all the advice by the way)

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The Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover offers more abrading ability than the most aggressive product in the Pinnacle line, which is the Pinnacle Advanced Swirl Remover.

The Wolfgang Twins are very easy to work with because they have a long buffing cycle or play time. M205 has a long buffing cycle but M105 has a history of having a short buffing cycle and if it's drying up too quickly it can also be hard to wipe off.

Pretty color and nice photography work.

:)
 
What Pads did you use and what speed was your DA on?
Where your pads clean?
Did you uses clean and good microfibers?
How many section passes did you do?
Did you try going over the section more then once?
I had a 2006 Eclipse GT that was black. Pinnacle Twins did wonders for me. Mitsu has pretty soft clear coat as most Jap cars do.
 
sullysdetailing said:
What Pads did you use and what speed was your DA on?
Where your pads clean?
Did you uses clean and good microfibers?
How many section passes did you do?
Did you try going over the section more then once?
I had a 2006 Eclipse GT that was black. Pinnacle Twins did wonders for me. Mitsu has pretty soft clear coat as most Jap cars do.
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New pads on a Flex 3401 at 5. Section passes I would guess 5-6 (started to dust on me). Did try it more than once (3). Maybe a small improvement each time.

Thanks for any help :)
 
The Pinnacle swirl removers are pretty weak. As suggested you will need to get better polishes, like the Wolfgang twins, Menzerna, or better yet , Megs 105 and 205 since you are using the da.
 
ASPHALT ROCKET said:
The Pinnacle swirl removers are pretty weak. As suggested you will need to get better polishes, like the Wolfgang twins, Menzerna, or better yet , Megs 105 and 205 since you are using the da.
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:whs::whs::whs: WG twins are very easy to work with and should correct that rather easily.
 
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Rsurfer said:
More lube equals more work time. Your lucky to get 3 passes with 105 before it dries up and start caking.
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Meguiars Ultimate Compound has more lube AND a lot easier to remove than 105. UC is next in line in the amount of cut compared to 105. Maybe that would be an option followed by 205? It has more cut than WG TSR, too. I think UC is a hidden gem that's fly's under the radar. I love it!
 
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Looks like I'm going to give the WG twins a roll, and pick up some Megs UC (OTC) if I'm still failing. I will post some pres and posts to see if you all approve. As always, thanks for the great feedback.
 
pokey said:
and pick up some Megs UC (OTC) if I'm still failing.
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Excellent stuff and very easy to work with.

Here's what Mike Phillips had to say about ultimate compound when I asked him how close the cut is to M105

"Just a tick down from M105

Ultimate Compound is as close as I can find out, about the same or just a tick down from M105 and closer to M105 in appearance, feel and performance than M95

Before Ultimate Compound came out I did a lot of hands-on demonstrations for car clubs removing swirls, scratches and bird dropping etchings by hand using M105, like this one...

Then after Ultimate Compound was introduced, using the same techniques that were used with M105 by hand in the above thread, we started showing UC by hand and with DA Polishers."
 
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