Misc ?s. 105/205 and Tape

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When can I tell if I'm done using 105 and its time to use 205. Basically, how can I tell if its a job for 205? Is it just if the swirls are fine?

I accidentally ordered grey pads intended for 205 instead of white ones. Ive heard using 205 with grey works fine as well.

Since my wheels are painted black, should I use OJ/105 then grey/205 on them or just use straight grey/205 til the light scratches are out.

Taping: once done taping, what do I do to remove the tape lines?

Thanks guys :xyxthumbs:
 
M105 works very fast. I've just started getting the hang of it since switching from Menzerna. What will you be using M105 with? Rotary or DA? Wool or foam?

For your wheels, I would try using some M205 and a microfiber towel to polish them out. You always want to start with the least aggressive and then work your way up if it's needed.

After you tape off a section for a 50/50 shot, just polish over the tape line. If you overlap a little bit, that is fine.
 
joshs07redss said:
M105 works very fast. I've just started getting the hang of it since switching from Menzerna. What will you be using M105 with? Rotary or DA? Wool or foam?

For your wheels, I would try using some M205 and a microfiber towel to polish them out. You always want to start with the least aggressive and then work your way up if it's needed.

After you tape off a section for a 50/50 shot, just polish over the tape line. If you overlap a little bit, that is fine.
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Ill be using foam pads with a PC! Could I use Klasse AIO instead of 205 or wil that not do that job?
 
If you have 205 use the 205 it's made to go with the 105 and the end results will be well worth it .If all your swirls are gone or your happy with the results from using the 105 it's time to move to the 205.Just do a IPA wipedown before the next step.
 
02blackout said:
Ill be using foam pads with a PC! Could I use Klasse AIO instead of 205 or wil that not do that job?
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I've never used AIO. If you have the 205, I would use that since it's a designated polish and not all-in-one product. Make sure that you have 5.5" orange pads at speed 6 to get correction with 105. I'm just getting used to its fast work time using a rotary. I'm not sure how it behaves with a PC, but I'd imagine it's about the same. Do you have any pads between orange and gray? Will you be following up 205 with anything?
 
Harleyguy said:
If you have 205 use the 205 it's made to go with the 105 and the end results will be well worth it .If all your swirls are gone or your happy with the results from using the 105 it's time to move to the 205.Just do a IPA wipedown before the next step.
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While using my floodlights to see swirls, are ALL swirls supposed to be gone after using 105? Surely not, 105 is just to remove all the main swirls until just fine ones are left for 205, right? I'm just saying when do I know when to use 105 or 205. I have lots of fine fine swirls so can I just use all 205/grey?

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I've never used AIO. If you have the 205, I would use that since it's a designated polish and not all-in-one product. Make sure that you have 5.5" orange pads at speed 6 to get correction with 105. I'm just getting used to its fast work time using a rotary. I'm not sure how it behaves with a PC, but I'd imagine it's about the same. Do you have any pads between orange and gray? Will you be following up 205 with anything?
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I sadly dont have the white pads yet. But I've heard using a grey pad for 205 will work fine. I do IPA wipedowns after 105 and 205
 
You need to start with the least aggressive first. Give 205 and gray a shot and see what it does. If you're happy with the results, then follow up with a less aggressive polish. If you're not happy with the results, then step up to 105 and orange. You always want to start of with the least aggressive combo first. You might want to invest in some white pads as they are better suited to follow up 105 I think.
 
I just did my 02 mustang GT last month with 105,205 PC. the swirls were really bad from up to 2ft away (and i mean bad ) but at 5 ft the car looked great. i used 105 and orange pad 2 passes about 1 minute per pass was about the max working time i could get out of 105. 18inx18in max size bolcks . this took about 6 hrs and alot of effort to get rid of the swirls and deeper scraches . Deeper scratches took more passes . Then i followed up with 205 white pad .This went alot faster than 105 and easier about half the time . i then used michine glaze #03 (probly a useless step but wanted the nutrients #03 for the paint) Then finished with Maguiers carnuba wax #26 . and the black GT probly never looked so sweet. Now there was some spots i could of worked more but i plan on doing again once it warms up . Now i just bought this car about 4 months ago so i am just finding out how much i hate ford clearcoat . It is so easy to swirl (lightly scratch) .I am allways doing touch up spots . Just as a reference if i lean against the car most likely i will be touching up the spot with 205 . What i learned is yes 105 is HARD to work with and takes alot more effort than i thought it would. But 105 is worth ALL the effort it takes . now when it worms up i only have a few spots that i will need 105 on. The rest of the car i will only need 205. And clean your pad often . i used 2 of each and still had to clean them a few times ( i did a full clean and set pad aside till i had to clean the next pad used rotery to spin the water out of the pads). Now my main problem is wiping down the car too much. The car is like a Dust magnet and i am starting to see some light swirling hear and there from me messing with it . But hay i want it to look its best at all times.
 
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M205 leaves a little to be made up, especially on black. You need a finishing polish like P085RD or Ultrafina.

M105 will remove heavy swirling/scratches and will leave slight micromarring, but not much.

M205 will remove what M105 left behind, but again will leave smaller micromarring. This is where a good finishing polish comes into play.
 
I noticed that also 205 did not seem to finish off as good as i thought it would .(at least on my black mustng) i had Maguiers #03 to finish the car before waxing .
 
zinc02gt said:
M205 leaves a little to be made up, especially on black. You need a finishing polish like P085RD or Ultrafina.

M105 will remove heavy swirling/scratches and will leave slight micromarring, but not much.

M205 will remove what M105 left behind, but again will leave smaller micromarring. This is where a good finishing polish comes into play.
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Yes, Ultrafine is a great polish and I agree that 205 needs to be followed up, but with using a PC, you can't use UF. You could use something like Menzerna 106.
 
zinc02gt said:
M205 leaves a little to be made up, especially on black. You need a finishing polish like P085RD or Ultrafina.

M105 will remove heavy swirling/scratches and will leave slight micromarring, but not much.

M205 will remove what M105 left behind, but again will leave smaller micromarring. This is where a good finishing polish comes into play.
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Exactly how I've understood it!!!!!!! :dblthumb2: :props:
 
I've heard of folks on here using P085RD with a PC. I don't know how it turned out for them though. My guess is that the pc doesn't develop enough heat and speed for the super fine polishes to truley break down the way they need to. When I go to my parents house ill test everything out with 105/205 witha pc and the same combo plus ultrafina via rotary ad show the differences
 
zinc02gt said:
I've heard of folks on here using P085RD with a PC. I don't know how it turned out for them though. My guess is that the pc doesn't develop enough heat and speed for the super fine polishes to truley break down the way they need to. When I go to my parents house ill test everything out with 105/205 witha pc and the same combo plus ultrafina via rotary ad show the differences
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from what I've read, 85rd works fine with a DA, especially the newer ones. Ultrafina is better to use with a rotary.
 
I really don't know lol. I have only used Ultrafina out of the two, but when my UF runs out I might pick up the P085RD for $17 cheaper than the UF.

Also, my practice hood is a 2004 black Mustang hood. Perfect for this huh?
 
I'm pretty sure 85rd will work with a DA. I've never used it, only UF, but I think I've read about people using it. You will just have to work it in like crazy. Post up some pictures of the results!
 
Man, you can do so much more with a rotary, and in less time!! I may have to sell my Flex 3401. :xyxthumbs:
 
You need more than just a rotary. If you use any kind of paint cleaner or apply any kind of wax by any method other than hand, you need a DA. :)
 
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